Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder

[sofutomygaha]

Lol again as I read through this guy being down played  Kid was a stud in the ncaa.  Has played behind kdurant, is a position of need, we got him for nothing, he's young and he's in a system that will accentuate what he can do.  At the least hes a rental with high upside.  Jeez us whAt more do people want around here.  Criersblog

I'm with you, I like this just fine.

But PJ was NOT a stud in the NCAA. He was a beautiful, giant, athletic freak with sweet handle and tons of potential who didn't deliver much on the court. He was a stud PROSPECT, but he hasn't played particularly well at the college, d-league, or NBA level.

[colincb]

We have 4 players out of the top 34 from the 2012 draft.

Zeller 17
Sully 21
PJ 28
Crowder 34

[Endless Paradise]

OKC has been very good at picking players, what went wrong w/ PJIII?

Have they though? I think they're more hit/miss with drafts except when they were absolutely horrible and had such high drafts to hit on Durant, Westbrook, and Harden. Adams and McGary have been good too so maybe you're right. The Thunder just haven't been good at developing young talent, ie. PJ3 and Lamb.

Ibaka, Jackson, Adams, McGary, Roberson's at least a great defender. They've had far more hits than misses in the draft.

And the notion that they haven't been good at developing young talent is absurd when you look at guys like Ibaka and Jackson; Lamb and PJ3 didn't develop because they sucked. They might improve in new situations, but they sucked for three seasons straight.

[colincb]

http://www.insidethunder.com/renners-revelations/2015/7/14/thunder-deal-perry-jones-to-boston

Thunder Deal Perry Jones To Boston
July 14, 2015

By Randy Renner

Thunder GM Sam Presti tried and tried to get more value out of forward Perry Jones (former head coach Scott Brooks had been trying for three years to do that too) but finally after failing to get a desired 1st round draft pick for the former Baylor star Presti dealt him to Boston for a protected 2nd round pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

The Thunder also picked up a $2.1 million trade exception but also had to send the 2019 2nd round pick they acquired from Detroit in the Reggie Jackson trade and some cash to sweeten the pot enough for Celtics GM Danny Ainge.

The main benefit for the Thunder is ridding themselves of Jones $2 million salary for this coming season which translates into a savings of at least $5 million on their potential luxury tax bill.

Jones was the 28th overall pick in the 2012 draft and had been projected to go much higher. Concerns about Jones' knees and whether his motor ran at a high enough RPM all the time were the main reasons for the slip.

Jones showed flashes of his potential as Kevin Durant's backup, Durant once even called Jones the "best athlete in the league."

But despite the flashes Jones mostly fizzled with the Thunder and he had some problems with injuries too. Jones is still just 23 years old so perhaps a new environment in Boston will help him.

The Thunder have now given up on two young players they'd hoped would blossom, Jones and Jeremy Lamb, who was traded to Charlotte earlier.

The move opens up a roster spot that could be used to bring in OKC Blue forward Josh Huestis. He was the Thunder's second 1st round pick last year and instead of signing a guaranteed contract as 1st round picks usually do, Huestis agreed to go to the D-League instead.

The Thunder have also been shopping forward Steve Novak and his $3.75 million contract. If they can work a deal for him it would bring them back under the punitive third tier of the luxury tax penalty.

That move wouldn't necessarily have to made though until the trade deadline in February since luxury tax penalties are figured on a team's payroll at the end of a season not the beginning.

[footey]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

He projects best at small forward, where we are not deep at all.

I love this trade. I like this more than the David Lee trade, honestly. I can't believe this is to get a 2nd round pick. I think Danny has every intention of keeping him. This is not Chris Babb, for heaven's sake.

You like this trade more than David Lee ?

That's ridiculous.

I do because I feel he fulfills a greater need than David Lee at the small forward position, and that he is much younger with tremendous upside. Not a knock on Lee, who is a more valuable player today. I am thinking about upside and need. 

So maybe I am not so ridiculous.

[tankcity!]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

We got a low risk high reward prospect a second rounder and cash for nothing...How is that pointless? Regardless of how miniscule it is we gain cap space and two assets for nothing. Theres no reason not to do this deal.

First, we don't gain cap space. We're using cap space to trade for him. See tweet below. Second, we already have a bunch of role players. Jones has been in the league for three years, we know what he is. I'd rather keep holmes personally. I just think it's a pointless trade that won't add to anything. We already have a bunch of Perry Jones on this team and nobody values them as an asset. If they did, we'd been able to trade in the top 10, or be in the Cousins sweepstakes. Which we weren't by the way according to all the reports. Kings preferred the Lakers assets. So again, yeah, this is a pointless trade unless other things happen.

Bobby Marks ?@BobbyMarks42  1h1 hour ago
Since BOS did not make the GSW trade or sign Crowder yet, Perry Jones is taken into cap space. Smart move by BOS to take advantage of space
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You have an extremely narrow vision.

You're very optimistic and unrealistic.

[Celtics4ever]

He gives us more size, let us hope Stevens can knock off the mental lapses and harness that athletic ability.  He is big enough to bother any SF in the league shot picture if he was on them.  Size at the SF.   We can go big now some too.

I still think another move is going to come.   But all our picks may end up in the D league and Pressey and Babb may be gone.  We may throw in the David Lee deal. 

Our Army of misfit toys gets another cast off toy.

[walker834]

Perry Jones has some nice upside.  He was playing well with Durant out last year until he got hurt.

[aingeforthree]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

He projects best at small forward, where we are not deep at all.

I love this trade. I like this more than the David Lee trade, honestly. I can't believe this is to get a 2nd round pick. I think Danny has every intention of keeping him. This is not Chris Babb, for heaven's sake.

You like this trade more than David Lee ?

That's ridiculous.

I do because I feel he fulfills a greater need than David Lee at the small forward position, and that he is much younger with tremendous upside. Not a knock on Lee, who is a more valuable player today. I am thinking about upside and need. 

So maybe I am not so ridiculous.

So you like a trade that brings in a player that could be cut come training camp over acquiring a player that might make the all star team next February ?

[Tr1boy]

How is Perry Jones knees and motor ? Anybody follow okc?

[Evantime34]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

We got a low risk high reward prospect a second rounder and cash for nothing...How is that pointless? Regardless of how miniscule it is we gain cap space and two assets for nothing. Theres no reason not to do this deal.

First, we don't gain cap space. We're using cap space to trade for him. See tweet below. Second, we already have a bunch of role players. Jones has been in the league for three years, we know what he is. I'd rather keep holmes personally. I just think it's a pointless trade that won't add to anything. We already have a bunch of Perry Jones on this team and nobody values them as an asset. If they did, we'd been able to trade in the top 10, or be in the Cousins sweepstakes. Which we weren't by the way according to all the reports. Kings preferred the Lakers assets. So again, yeah, this is a pointless trade unless other things happen.

Bobby Marks ?@BobbyMarks42  1h1 hour ago
Since BOS did not make the GSW trade or sign Crowder yet, Perry Jones is taken into cap space. Smart move by BOS to take advantage of space
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You have an extremely narrow vision.

You're very optimistic and unrealistic.

Lol I feel like the next step is that you guys just start name calling.

BTW, not sure what is not to like about this deal. We absorbed his contract into cap space we probably wouldn't have otherwise used. They traded us cash in the deal, presumably enough to pay Jones' salary if we do cut him in training camp. For doing this we got a future second round pick.

We literally gave up nothing, if the return is more than nothing than it was a good trade.

[jaketwice]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

He projects best at small forward, where we are not deep at all.

I love this trade. I like this more than the David Lee trade, honestly. I can't believe this is to get a 2nd round pick. I think Danny has every intention of keeping him. This is not Chris Babb, for heaven's sake.

You like this trade more than David Lee ?

That's ridiculous.

I do because I feel he fulfills a greater need than David Lee at the small forward position, and that he is much younger with tremendous upside. Not a knock on Lee, who is a more valuable player today. I am thinking about upside and need. 

So maybe I am not so ridiculous.

I also like this move a lot. I think Stevens did well with Evan Turner - who has shown he is a productive pro. Perry Jones has shown some flashes. He could just need a change of scenery. It happened for Kyle Lowry; it has happened for other talented players (Chauncey Billups, to bring up a painful memory). Getting better on a new team is not without precedent.

Crowder, I don't think, ever projects as a star at SF. And I like Turner way better at SG.

[footey]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

He projects best at small forward, where we are not deep at all.

I love this trade. I like this more than the David Lee trade, honestly. I can't believe this is to get a 2nd round pick. I think Danny has every intention of keeping him. This is not Chris Babb, for heaven's sake.

You like this trade more than David Lee ?

That's ridiculous.

I do because I feel he fulfills a greater need than David Lee at the small forward position, and that he is much younger with tremendous upside. Not a knock on Lee, who is a more valuable player today. I am thinking about upside and need. 

So maybe I am not so ridiculous.

So you like a trade that brings in a player that could be cut come training camp over acquiring a player that might make the all star team next February ?

that's a lot of could be's and maybe's in your last question. Who knows? Can't wait to find out. I don't think he will be cut.  I predict that he will either be on the roster or included in a trade for a significant player (more significant than David Lee).  And I would be shocked, but pleasantly surprised, if David Lee made the All Star game next season.

[colincb]

It's a free 2nd rounder. Anything else is gravy. What's not to like?

[tankcity!]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

We got a low risk high reward prospect a second rounder and cash for nothing...How is that pointless? Regardless of how miniscule it is we gain cap space and two assets for nothing. Theres no reason not to do this deal.

First, we don't gain cap space. We're using cap space to trade for him. See tweet below. Second, we already have a bunch of role players. Jones has been in the league for three years, we know what he is. I'd rather keep holmes personally. I just think it's a pointless trade that won't add to anything. We already have a bunch of Perry Jones on this team and nobody values them as an asset. If they did, we'd been able to trade in the top 10, or be in the Cousins sweepstakes. Which we weren't by the way according to all the reports. Kings preferred the Lakers assets. So again, yeah, this is a pointless trade unless other things happen.

Bobby Marks ?@BobbyMarks42  1h1 hour ago
Since BOS did not make the GSW trade or sign Crowder yet, Perry Jones is taken into cap space. Smart move by BOS to take advantage of space
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You have an extremely narrow vision.

You're very optimistic and unrealistic.

Lol I feel like the next step is that you guys just start name calling.

BTW, not sure what is not to like about this deal. We absorbed his contract into cap space we probably wouldn't have otherwise used. They traded us cash in the deal, presumably enough to pay Jones' salary if we do cut him in training camp. For doing this we got a future second round pick.

We literally gave up nothing, if the return is more than nothing than it was a good trade.

Yeah, if he pans out, it's a great trade. But this is the types of trades the Celtics have been doing. I don't see getting Perry Jones will get them somewhere. He's not a star and they already have a bunch of role players.

Like I said, I think something will happen trade wise to make sense of this. Of course people keep ignoring that part.