Knicks and Celtics trade idea: Carmelo to Celtics

[Tr1boy]

Im not much of a fan of Carmelo, but he could be a difference maker to help propel the Celts become, one of the top three teams out of the east.

To Knicks:  Sully, ET, Zeller, Ab, Young,  1st round pick (2016 Mavs or Celts)
To Celtics: Melo

Lineup

Amir/KO
Lee/Jerebko/Mickey
Melo/Crowder/Holmes
Smart/Hunter
Rozier/IT

Why Celts want to make the trade:  slim the roster a little and gain a top sf in the NBA.  Pressure off Melo to have to do alot. He can concentrate fitting into the system and doing what he does best, scoring especially when the team is having an off night or in clutch situations

Why the Knicks make the trade: The way the lineup is now, it will be another playofff less year.  No assets (outside of Porzingis) to improve the team. Melo is going to be overworked and will be unhappy. Knicks are wasting money on his contract.  The team adds many pieces from the Celts, Fisher can shape the team to his liking a little better, better chance to make the playoffs and can hope Porzingis becomes the teams go to guy in a year or two.

[Evantime34]

People in general have a strong hate for Carmelo due to his ball stopping ways but with all the cap space we will have next year, trading for a guy that stars want to play with is a great idea.

With where the Knicks are in their rebuild, and the fact that they don't have any picks next year I could see them trading Melo.

[The One]

People in general have a strong hate for Carmelo due to his ball stopping ways but with all the cap space we will have next year, trading for a guy that stars want to play with is a great idea.

With where the Knicks are in their rebuild, and the fact that they don't have any picks next year I could see them trading Melo.

He is a ball stopper...but I think his pros outweigh his cons.

[rondohondo]

Im not much of a fan of Carmelo, but he could be a difference maker to help propel the Celts become, one of the top three teams out of the east.

To Knicks:  Sully, ET, Zeller, Ab, Young,  1st round pick (2016 Mavs or Celts)
To Celtics: Melo

Lineup

Amir/KO
Lee/Jerebko/Mickey
Melo/Crowder/Holmes
Smart/Hunter
Rozier/IT

Why Celts want to make the trade:  slim the roster a little and gain a top sf in the NBA.  Pressure off Melo to have to do alot. He can concentrate fitting into the system and doing what he does best, scoring especially when the team is having an off night or in clutch situations

Why the Knicks make the trade: The way the lineup is now, it will be another playofff less year.  No assets (outside of Porzingis) to improve the team. Melo is going to be overworked and will be unhappy. Knicks are wasting money on his contract.  The team adds many pieces from the Celts, Fisher can shape the team to his liking a little better, better chance to make the playoffs and can hope Porzingis becomes the teams go to guy in a year or two.

so knicks are giving up melo for

sully= fat, injury prone player in a contract year who will need to be re-signed

et = journeyman

zeller = backup center

Bradley = 3+d role player

young= unproven , low ceiling prospect

and a mid 1st rd pick


I am sure Phil will be drooling to do this deal with a division rival 

[jpotter33]

I think any trade for Melo for us will more than likely have to come during the middle of the season for several reasons:
1) the Knicks would need to be out of the playoff race making Anthony unsatisfied,
2) the C's would need to be firmly in the playoff race playing good,
3) At least one of the Dallas and/or Brooklyn picks would have to have high potential with the team's underperforming,
4) and one or more of our prospects would need to make a significant jump.

If those things happened, then sure I could see a trade as a possibility. But Melo has a no-trade clause, so in addition to having to put together an attractive enough package for Phil, we also have to sway him on playing here. I just don't think all of those things will come together in the perfect storm for us to trade for him this year.

[Csfan1984]

Don't see it Knicks have invested in new pieces for playoffs in Affalo and Lopez. They could want Lee back though yet have no salary match.

[action781]

jpotter and csfan hit the point, knicks have very low interest in trading carmelo right now.  The knicks realize the same thing that evantime said about how carmelo's contract will look next offseason and his ability to attract FA.

Also, he would not "concentrate on fitting into the system" on offense.  Carmelo wants to iso.  He would likely not be willing to operate in Brad's system and Brad would probably have to come up with offensive sets that revolve around iso-ball

[max215]

Im not much of a fan of Carmelo, but he could be a difference maker to help propel the Celts become, one of the top three teams out of the east.

To Knicks:  Sully, ET, Zeller, Ab, Young,  1st round pick (2016 Mavs or Celts)
To Celtics: Melo

Lineup

Amir/KO
Lee/Jerebko/Mickey
Melo/Crowder/Holmes
Smart/Hunter
Rozier/IT

Why Celts want to make the trade:  slim the roster a little and gain a top sf in the NBA.  Pressure off Melo to have to do alot. He can concentrate fitting into the system and doing what he does best, scoring especially when the team is having an off night or in clutch situations

Why the Knicks make the trade: The way the lineup is now, it will be another playofff less year.  No assets (outside of Porzingis) to improve the team. Melo is going to be overworked and will be unhappy. Knicks are wasting money on his contract.  The team adds many pieces from the Celts, Fisher can shape the team to his liking a little better, better chance to make the playoffs and can hope Porzingis becomes the teams go to guy in a year or two.

so knicks are giving up melo for

sully= fat, injury prone player in a contract year who will need to be re-signed

et = journeyman

zeller = backup center

Bradley = 3+d role player

young= unproven , low ceiling prospect

and a mid 1st rd pick


I am sure Phil will be drooling to do this deal with a division rival 

This.

[Robb]

People in general have a strong hate for Carmelo due to his ball stopping ways but with all the cap space we will have next year, trading for a guy that stars want to play with is a great idea.

With where the Knicks are in their rebuild, and the fact that they don't have any picks next year I could see them trading Melo.

I thought the story of the last few offseasons has been that no one has wanted to play with him.

[Evantime34]

People in general have a strong hate for Carmelo due to his ball stopping ways but with all the cap space we will have next year, trading for a guy that stars want to play with is a great idea.

With where the Knicks are in their rebuild, and the fact that they don't have any picks next year I could see them trading Melo.

I thought the story of the last few offseasons has been that no one has wanted to play with him.

Last year when he was a free agent everyone with cap space was interested. I think he still has cache (provided he is healthy next year)

[footey]

I want to build around a younger, healthier, star. 

Patience, people.

[knuckleballer]

I wouldn't advocate a trade for Melo, but I wouldn't hate it either.  He could make us a contender to win the East. 

NY has such a f upped roster that I could see them as a potential trading partner.  Thet could trade Melo to rebuild or Porzingis to try to contend.  I might be interested in either of those guys.

[Moranis]

I wouldn't mind Melo, but the trade proposed in this thread is no where near enough for NY to trade him.  Smart and multiple 1st round picks would have to be included.

Something like this makes a bit of sense.

Smart, Bradley, Sullinger, Jerekbo, DAL 1st, 2016 BOS 1st, 2018 BOS 1st (lottery protected)

for

Anthony

Would leave Boston's lineup as

PG - Thomas
SG - Turner
SF - Anthony
PF - Johnson
C - Lee

with Zeller, Olynyk, Crowder, Young, and Rozier as main rotation and Hunter, Pressey, Mickey, Datome, and Thornton rounding out roster.

Probably not a title team, but certainly a lot closer and likely just one move away from being a real contender. 

[Tr1boy]

I wouldn't mind Melo, but the trade proposed in this thread is no where near enough for NY to trade him.  Smart and multiple 1st round picks would have to be included.

Something like this makes a bit of sense.

Smart, Bradley, Sullinger, Jerekbo, DAL 1st, 2016 BOS 1st, 2018 BOS 1st (lottery protected)

for

Anthony

Would leave Boston's lineup as

PG - Thomas
SG - Turner
SF - Anthony
PF - Johnson
C - Lee

with Zeller, Olynyk, Crowder, Young, and Rozier as main rotation and Hunter, Pressey, Mickey, Datome, and Thornton rounding out roster.

Probably not a title team, but certainly a lot closer and likely just one move away from being a real contender.

Smart worth more than melo to the celts at this moment

[dark_lord]

wouldn't want melo at all!  slows the offense by holding the ball, takes a lot of shots, cant play D, and most importantly....isn't a winner.