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Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2015, 12:02:33 AM »

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Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

My problem with AB is that he's one dimensional on offense and cannot make decisions on the court. I've said it before, AB is a very valuable player to a contender, which we aren't. We need a scorer, many teams need perimeter defense, a trade could be very mutually beneficial.

Who said we are not a contender?

Virtually everyone.
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Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2015, 12:44:26 AM »

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I don't see why so many people want to trade Bradley.  We know he can play.  Seems like a pretty good kid.  Very reasonable contract.  We'll be a contender in a year or two.  It's not like he's 33 years old and declining. 

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2015, 12:59:57 AM »

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I don't see why so many people want to trade Bradley.  We know he can play.  Seems like a pretty good kid.  Very reasonable contract.  We'll be a contender in a year or two.  It's not like he's 33 years old and declining.
Its more of trading him solves the logjam in the back court.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2015, 01:08:59 AM »

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Wouldn't be a logjam if Ainge didn't poop in his pants during the draft.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2015, 01:34:51 AM »

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I don't see why so many people want to trade Bradley.  We know he can play.  Seems like a pretty good kid.  Very reasonable contract.  We'll be a contender in a year or two.  It's not like he's 33 years old and declining.
Its more of trading him solves the logjam in the back court.

Yeah.

Bradley's had a few years to audition in the starting role, with plenty of opportunity to be a top offensive option.

The results are conclusive: Bradley is not really elite in any category -- including his defense, which has fallen off since he started playing more on the other end -- and he's certainly not a top 10 player at his position. 

Furthermore, he's not a particularly versatile player at a time when versatility is prized more than nearly any other skill, especially in Brad Stevens' system.


So, I think it's time to sell off Bradley (and Turner, who doesn't do us much good) to make way for the other guards on the roster who might be able to reach higher.  Also, trading Bradley could help us acquire some pieces in areas that are lacking, i.e. wings with size AND shooting ability, not one or the other.
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Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2015, 01:48:54 AM »

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Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2015, 01:50:10 AM »

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James Young has roughly as much value as Reggie Bullock at the moment. Which is to say, none at all.
Probably still has more value than Hunter though

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2015, 02:00:52 AM »

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I don't see why so many people want to trade Bradley.  We know he can play.  Seems like a pretty good kid.  Very reasonable contract.  We'll be a contender in a year or two.  It's not like he's 33 years old and declining.
He actually has value. Apart from Smart and IT, none of our other guards have trade value. IT and Smart will only be traded for major value at this point.

Sadly, Young might not have much value right now. Might not be any point in trading him right now. Best bet is to keep him around to see if his value increases. Dude is still only 19.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2015, 02:09:50 AM »

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Wouldn't be a logjam if Ainge didn't poop in his pants during the draft.

That's what I'm saying. Ainge just got scared when he was on the clock and just pulled someone out of his ass. I'm surprised he didn't take Jordan Mickey to be honest with you. It's surprising because Ainge is usually good at drafting the obvious player that falls like Dekker, but instead he passed on the most obvious pick with the best fit. It's all good when we roll into the regular season with 5 point guards on the roster.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2015, 05:24:37 AM »

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Where are we getting 5 point guards from? If Pressey isn't back your looking at Turner and IT as to only guys who can run the show on O. Maybe Rozier will be able to step up right away that that is not known right now. I think you can make the argument we don't have any point guards easier than you can that we have 5.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2015, 05:55:50 AM »

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Maybe another Mavs first? or 2 second? they can use some SGs
or Cavs? they havn't re-sign JR smith, but i don't know if i want a Cavs pick
which almost worth nothing

Probably not much.

Maybe the right to swap a 2nd round pick protected top55 ?

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2015, 07:12:09 AM »

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Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

I agree.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2015, 07:16:45 AM »

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Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

I agree.

I'm just waiting for the Stevens hate, it will happen someday.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2015, 07:33:55 AM »

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Maybe another Mavs first? or 2 second? they can use some SGs
or Cavs? they havn't re-sign JR smith, but i don't know if i want a Cavs pick
which almost worth nothing

Contrary to most people's desires, Avery Bradley is very unlikely to be traded unless he is part of a major deal.

Re: What can AB/Young get us?
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2015, 07:50:10 AM »

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I think both players are worth roughly the same.

A first round pick in the late teens to early twenties.