AB has a decent amount of value and is about to be on an unbelievably cheap contract. If we trade AB, we're probably getting proven talent.

Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

Top tier defender?? Exaggerate much?

As for Young, I am not waiting for anything.

I just don't like him as a player, plain and simple.

Quote from: oldutican on July 09, 2015, 10:59:44 PM

Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

Top tier defender?? Exaggerate much?

As for Young, I am not waiting for anything.

I just don't like him as a player, plain and simple.

He was second team all defense in 2013...

Quote from: oldutican on July 09, 2015, 10:59:44 PM

Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

Top tier defender?? Exaggerate much?

As for Young, I am not waiting for anything.

I just don't like him as a player, plain and simple.

not crazy on Young myself anymore but dumping those 2 guys leaves us woefully thin at the 2 spot.  puts way too much pressure on hunter to produce and forces guys to play out of position in order to cover the spot for 48 minutes (Crowder, Turner, Smart all have glaring holes playing the wing guard spot).

hopefully we could get some sort of 2 guard back in a deal.  I'd go those 2 to Sacto to take a roll of the dice on McLemore though.  Feel like Danny would too. he's been flirting with trading for him for 2 years now.  may have to add a pick to sweeten the deal though

Quote from: oldutican on July 09, 2015, 10:59:44 PM

Fascinating how people turn on players. The AB hate is really strange since he is a top tier defender and decent shooter. As for Young, let's wait till he is old enough to get served at a bar before we give up on him and give him away.

My problem with AB is that he's one dimensional on offense and cannot make decisions on the court. I've said it before, AB is a very valuable player to a contender, which we aren't. We need a scorer, many teams need perimeter defense, a trade could be very mutually beneficial.

Who said we are not a contender?

I wouldn't give up on Young yet.  He had some dominant games int he D League last year and the talent level there is a little better than Summer League.

AB on the other hand is a known commodity.  Good rotation guy, probably good enough to start on a few teams.  But he's not good enough to be a real difference maker.  If you could make a deal to upgrade one of the front court positions, I'd move him.  But if not, he's OK here - at least till someone else proves they deserve his minutes.

Toss Livingston, Young or Hunter in there for him right now and you're downgrading the team quite a bit.