Trade Ideas: Harrison Barnes and John Henson

[cdoubleu11]

Well we all know that the celtics worst positions are at the small forward and at center. I think two reasonable options are Harrison Barnes and John Henson. Both are still young and talented, and probably wont needed to be traded at a very expensive price.
The case for Barnes:
Out of high school Barnes was the number 2 player in his class but was given some extremely high  expectations to live up to. So far Barnes has not been the dynamic scorer that people thought that he would be, but it has been hard for him to get many touches with klay thompson, curry, green, and igoudala. With all of that, Barnes has still proven to be a decent shooter, a great finisher, and an excellent defender. He also won't need to be traded at a huge price.
The Trade
Celtics receive: Harrison Barnes, James-Michael-Mcadoo
Warriors receive: Kelly Olynyk, Nets 2016 first round pick,
The warriors just traded away their best backup big man and now need another one. Kelly Olynyk is probably going to be traded someday with the Celtics crowded frontcourt. Also Evan Turner probably won't last as a starting small forward anyways. Mcadoo is a very raw and athletic scorer and is a decent cheap alternative from Olynyk. For the Warriors, they would be willing to trade away Barnes because first, Igoudala is really starting to get into his groove, and it looks like he'll be their starter next season.

The case for John Henson:
Earlier this year, a trade for Henson seemed very hard to do because he still had a chance to start. But now with Greg Monroe, Zaza, and Plumlee, it seems like the Bucks can afford to give up Henson for some other assets. Henson is a very underrated rim protector and is a good scorer and rebounder. While only playing 18 minutes a game he's managed to average 8 pts, 5 boards and 2 blocks a game while having a 18.08 PER.
Three Team Trade
Celtics receive: John Henson, KJ Mcdaniels (S&T)
Bucks receive: Evan Turner, Jonas Jerekbo, 2017 76ers 2nd round pick
Rockets receive: Tyler Ennis, 2017 Heat 2nd round pick
Trade (option 2)
Celtics receive: John Henson, Rashad Vaughn
Bucks receive, Evan Turner, Jonas Jerekbo, 2016 Nets 1st round pick, 2016 Heat 2nd round pick

In the first trade, the celtics could do a sign and trade for KJ who is an athletic small forward with a lot of potential. Unfortunately for him and the Rockets, he rarely got any playing time and that may lead to him getting traded. With MCW, Bayless, and Vasquez, Tyler Ennis is destined to be traded and the Rockets have always needed a point guard for a while. Evan Turner could add some guard and forward depth for the Jabari Parker and GA.  Jerekbo is a stretch four who is a good defender and has a decent contract. In option two, Vaughn is a decent scorer, but was picked 17th and the Nets 1st round pick will probably make it into the lottery so it's probably of more value.

The Lineup
Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Young/Hunter/Vaugh
Barnes/Crowder/KJ Mcadniels
Sullinger/Lee/Mickey
Henson/Johnson/Zeller

[max215]

Both of those deals favor us pretty heavily. Barnes is also not going to be traded, the Warriors have no reason to let him go.

[cdoubleu11]

Thanks for the reply. Just modified the trades. What do you think?

[csfansince60s]

Like to get Henson, but that's not enough for him.

Here's your first TP for your first posts  and the work you put  in on the OP.

Welcome to celticsblog.

[cdoubleu11]

Thanks for the TP. I'll try to think of more trades to get henson

[Irish Stew]

Interesting ideas because we came into the offseason with two priorities: a SF scorer and a rim protector. We, of course, obtained neither. Barnes would be fine but I'm not including either the Dallas or Brooklyn pick until their rosters are more or less set and I get some idea exactly how bad each team will be. Right now, I'm only using those picks to acquire a star or potential star, and I don't believe that Barnes qualifies. Like other posters have said, the Henson deal doesn't look fair to Milwaukee.

[cdoubleu11]

Ya for Barnes, the Nets pick is a little too much. But I feel like a second rounder is not enough. For the henson trade, even some may value him high, the Celtics should have more control over the trade considering he averaged 18 minutes a game with Zaza, but now with Plumlee and Greg Monroe he is expected to have less minutes so they should trade while he at least has some value. But yes they aren't that fair.

[Endless Paradise]

The Warriors did not trade Marreese Speights.

[gpap]

Thanks for the TP. I'll try to think of more trades to get henson

How about Smart and Sully for Michael Carter Williams and John Henson?

[max215]

Thanks for the TP. I'll try to think of more trades to get henson

How about Smart and Sully for Michael Carter Williams and John Henson?

WHAT?!

[cdoubleu11]

Actually now that I think about it, I think that would be a pretty good trade for both sides. I haven't watched him much, but I'm not a big fan of MCW though

[cdoubleu11]

Thanks for the TP. I'll try to think of more trades to get henson

How about Smart and Sully for Michael Carter Williams and John Henson?

What do you think about sending Sully and the sixers 2nd rounder for henson

[cdoubleu11]

Like to get Henson, but that's not enough for him.

Here's your first TP for your first posts  and the work you put  in on the OP.

Welcome to celticsblog.

Ya now that Zaza is gone, that sort of lowers the chance of him getting traded so they are for sure going to need more

[Geo123]

Thanks for the TP. I'll try to think of more trades to get henson

How about Smart and Sully for Michael Carter Williams and John Henson?

What do you think about sending Sully and the sixers 2nd rounder for henson

Why do you think the Bucks would do this?  The Bucks need a defensive center to help cover for Monroe's poor defense.  There's no way they trade Henson for a PF with no shot blocking capabiilities. 

[slamtheking]

must be me but I think both of those proposals are gross overpayments.  I find Barnes and Henson to both be very overrated here