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Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2015, 08:08:53 AM »

Offline Irish Stew

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I'm gonna throw out a crazy name, but just hear me out:  Andre Drummond.

I KNOW the Pistons would be idiots to trade him.  Anyone would be out of their mind to trade him.  But as of right now they haven't given him an extension even though AD, Lillard, even Reggie Jackson got an extension before Drummond.

The Pistons as is have next to no one on their roster.  Go to NBA Trade Machine and take a look at how many players just had their contracts expire and how many players they now have under contract.  Keep in mind the only notable additions to their team have been Stanley Johnson and Ilyasova.

If Drummond wants an extension, and Boston offers Detroit Bradley, Sully, ET, and Zeller and picks (say Dallas and some 2nds, or even Brooklyn protected) are they dumb enough to sign and trade him?

They might go for quantity over quantity due to the fact their roster is so depleted.  Van Gundy had Otis Smith do it to him in Orlando when they traded Bass for Baby and Von Wafer.  Would Van Gundy do it himself?  Even if it involved a player as talented as Drummond? OKC did it to Harden after he won 6th man of the year.

I'm not saying I'm right.  I'm just saying it's worth consideration.

Keep in mind Danny thinks big. Gallo and Chandler are small potatoes.
A stretch 4 like Ilyasova and a tough two way sf like Johnson seem like perfect complements to Drummond. It just seems that if they were not fully invested in Drummond, they would have moved him for one of the top picks in this draft and maxed out Monroe.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2015, 08:27:27 AM »

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I want Carmelo Anthony. We won't get him, but he's *seriously* disgruntled after the Porzingis pick, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved somewhere before the deadline (probably the Lakers, sigh...)

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2015, 08:29:38 AM »

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I KNOW the Pistons would be idiots to trade him.  Anyone would be out of their mind to trade him.  But as of right now they haven't given him an extension even though … Reggie Jackson got an extension before Drummond.

No, he didn't. Reggie Jackson never signed an extension.

That said, the team has until late October to extend him.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2015, 08:54:12 AM »

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Ive been calling for Gerald Green a while now. If we can pick him up and package a combo of Evan Turner, Bradley, and a PF for a legit player, I'd be happy.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2015, 08:55:12 AM »

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We have a boatload of guards.

Would be wise to upgrade the SF position. Turner is not in the long-term plan. Crowder is best used as a backup.

Still lacking a rim protector, but at least we got the rebounding woes solved in David Lee.

Ainge has had multiple chances to get a sf here.  Maybe he saw jeff green as a long term plan and went with young as opposed to hood, but this year he has dekker and rhj and he gets a guy that might be a starting pg on a losing team one day.  He needs to start drafting for need especially when there's not a big difference between need and best player available.

Thats fair.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2015, 09:00:22 AM »

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Ainge will be trying to trade Sully, Olynyk, or both for players who are SF/PF hybrids.  Gallo has been mentioned, and he obviously fills this role.  A cheaper option, both in salary and assets, is Mike Scott of Atlanta, who reportedly is on the block.  There aren't too many out there that are available... Josh Smith, anybody?

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2015, 09:03:06 AM »

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Ainge will be trying to trade Sully, Olynyk, or both for players who are SF/PF hybrids.  Gallo has been mentioned, and he obviously fills this role.  A cheaper option, both in salary and assets, is Mike Scott of Atlanta, who reportedly is on the block.  There aren't too many out there that are available... Josh Smith, anybody?

Josh Smith is a taller version of Antoine Walker in his later playing years. Please, NO!

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2015, 09:09:13 AM »

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They are obviously trying to shop James Young, which is why this fictional 20 pounds of muscle story came into play in the first place. Not sure that kid can play though.

James Young is Ryan Mallett 2.0. Everyone in Boston thought we had the next coming of Kobe people would be lining out the door for him. We are using summer league to showcase his skills, unfortunately it's not going according to plan.
Similar to Mallett who got his chance to start last preseason, Pats showcase, who will be lining up for their next starting QB, all it will take is a first rounder and he is yours... by the end of the game he wasn't worth anything more than a 6th.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2015, 09:23:52 AM »

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I want Carmelo Anthony. We won't get him, but he's *seriously* disgruntled after the Porzingis pick, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved somewhere before the deadline (probably the Lakers, sigh...)
If Melo kicks up a fuss and demands a trade to a title contender, would Melo even consider coming to a roster like the Boston Celtics?

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2015, 09:25:06 AM »

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I forget where I read it last night but it was speculated that DA might try for a KO for Ross deal with the Raptors.

I would be on board with a Sully or KO for Ross deal.
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Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 09:27:17 AM »

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No, he didn't. Reggie Jackson never signed an extension.

That said, the team has until late October to extend him.

??

Jackson agreed to a 5 year, $80 million extension a few days ago.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 09:27:37 AM »

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Ainge will be trying to trade Sully, Olynyk, or both for players who are SF/PF hybrids.  Gallo has been mentioned, and he obviously fills this role.  A cheaper option, both in salary and assets, is Mike Scott of Atlanta, who reportedly is on the block.  There aren't too many out there that are available... Josh Smith, anybody?

Josh Smith is a taller version of Antoine Walker in his later playing years. Please, NO!

It was a bit tongue-in-cheek to show the lack of choices out there (and I was going from the top of my head, but still, there aren't many).  Terrance Ross, mentioned below, is viable.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2015, 09:29:03 AM »

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No, he didn't. Reggie Jackson never signed an extension.

That said, the team has until late October to extend him.

??

Jackson agreed to a 5 year, $80 million extension a few days ago.

Jackson was a free agent.  He was signed in free agency.  It's a new contract, not an extension.  Davis, Lillard, and Drummon are not free agents and thus only eligible for extensions, which is why they should not be compared with Jackson.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2015, 09:34:25 AM »

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I could actually see Carmelo going on the market and we'd certainly have a shot at him (I personally wouldn't want him).

Not a huge market of available wings out there. Others who would be an upgrade and might be attainable:

Danilo Gallinari -- Last year of his contract, shouldn't be too expensive and really fits a need.

Tyreke Evans -- Not a perfect fit (doesn't shoot the three that well), but can create shots. Would be hard to get, but if NO doesn't expect Eric Gordon to play a full year, a defensive oriented SG like Avery Bradley, plus Turner, Sully, etc. could have some appeal.

Bradley Beal -- A SG, not a SF, but good size for his position and an upgrade on AB. Seems like the Wizards aren't crazy about the idea of giving him a max extension.

Markief Morris -- Can he play SF more or less full-time? His twin brother could.

Re: C's targetting a SF?
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2015, 09:41:15 AM »

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They are obviously trying to shop James Young, which is why this fictional 20 pounds of muscle story came into play in the first place. Not sure that kid can play though.

James Young is Ryan Mallett 2.0.

Wow, I think you are either seriously over-rating Young or under-rating Mallett. You do realize that Mallett signed a 2 year $7M contract with the Texans over the summer? He or Hoyer will start for the Texans. Mallett will be in the NFL for a few more years, at least. That's more than we can say for Young and his career in the NBA, at this point.

That said, I really wish everyone would take a chill pill. Its Summer League, two games in (the first SL of Young's career, BTW). We all knew he was a big project, and he appears to remain a project. But just have a little patience, please.
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