It's hilarious how the fanbase has turned 180 and would "rather have" Wallace

[cltc5]

Lee is an immediate upgrade to the mess we have now.

[Endless Paradise]

The team is pretty clearly heading down that treadmill of mediocrity that everyone swore Ainge wouldn't get caught on.

[truthhurts34]

Acquiring David Lee:

- Makes the team worse defensively, somehow
- Means a starting spot will probably be used on a 30+ guy with no future here
- Makes the team more likely to finish in the middle of the pack
- Means we have to watch David Lee for at least 20 minutes a night 75+ times


David Lee on the Celts is basically a redux of Kris Humphries, without any of the easy Kardashian jokes.

It's comical you think this move was done for basketball purposes. Even though Lee is currently the superior players on the court out of the two, ainge turned Wallaces 10 mill expiring into a 15.4 million expiring in David lee.

He most likely won't even be here for the 75 games you are whining about and will be flipped at the deadline like Thornton was last year.


But wah shouldve kept Wallace and his 5 million dollar less expiring.....right....

You're not wrong: insofar as Lee's primary value is an expiring contract, but I would be very surprised if he doesn't see the floor for a majority of the available minutes while he is on the Celtics, which will lead to the scenario Pho is describing.

What scenario though? The potential future building block at pf in sullinger? He misses substantial time every year due to injuries.

That ship has sailed. Half of his rookie season was lost due to injuries, last year was his foot yet he still packed on the pounds every year.

Let alone the fact we played better without him this year. As for olynyk, he's a bench player. We currently do not have a building block at pf, so no I don't understand the whining.

15.4 expiring > 10

Simple as that.

I'm not losing sleep over a kid losing a few mpg when he is perennially injured and overweight every year.

[littleteapot]

What scenario though? The potential future building block at pf in sullinger? He misses substantial time every year due to injuries.

That ship has sailed. Half of his rookie season was lost due to injuries, last year was his foot yet he still packed on the pounds every year.

Let alone the fact we played better without him this year. As for olynyk, he's a bench player. We currently do not have a building block at pf, so no I don't understand the whining.

Sully and Olynyk are both better trade chips than Lee and still have the potential to be legitimate assets. By adding a trade chip that hasn't had much value for a while, we are putting ourselves in a position where it might be tough to get value for any of these 3 trade chips.

[PhoSita]

The team is pretty clearly heading down that treadmill of mediocrity that everyone swore Ainge wouldn't get caught on.

+1


The only way this makes sense to me is that Ainge is wayyyyyyy more confident in his ability to spin gold out of wheat than any of us gave him credit for.

[PhoSita]

If you need help understanding the "David Lee sucks" thing, go take a look at how the Red Sox are doing with Hanley Ramirez in left field.

Terrible comparison. Ramirez was inked to a NEW deal, while Lee was acquired as an expiring deal.

It's fairly obvious what this deal was made for....yet seems to fly over your head for whatever reason.

Irony.

I'm referring to the on-court factors, obviously. 

The contract has nothing to do with the comparison.

[Endless Paradise]

Expiring contracts don't have nearly the value some of you think they still hold. In an era where the longest contract that can be signed is a five-year deal, they're not worth much. Who really cares if Lee's expiring pays him more money than Gerald Wallace's expiring?

[Scintan]

Expiring contracts don't have nearly the value some of you think they still hold. In an era where the longest contract that can be signed is a five-year deal, they're not worth much. Who really cares if Lee's expiring pays him more money than Gerald Wallace's expiring?

Golden State, for one.

[truthhurts34]

What scenario though? The potential future building block at pf in sullinger? He misses substantial time every year due to injuries.

That ship has sailed. Half of his rookie season was lost due to injuries, last year was his foot yet he still packed on the pounds every year.

Let alone the fact we played better without him this year. As for olynyk, he's a bench player. We currently do not have a building block at pf, so no I don't understand the whining.

Sully and Olynyk are both better trade chips than Lee and still have the potential to be legitimate assets. By adding a trade chip that hasn't had much value for a while, we are putting ourselves in a position where it might be tough to get value for any of these 3 trade chips.

Sullinger and olynyk are not better assets than Lee's 15.4 expiring sorry.

Sullinger is perennially  overweight and injured and is an expiring as well, olynyk is not even starting quality.

[Endless Paradise]

Expiring contracts don't have nearly the value some of you think they still hold. In an era where the longest contract that can be signed is a five-year deal, they're not worth much. Who really cares if Lee's expiring pays him more money than Gerald Wallace's expiring?

Golden State, for one.

Hahaha, touché.

[littleteapot]

Sullinger and olynyk are not better assets than Lee's 15.4 expiring sorry.

Sullinger is perennially  overweight and injured, olynyk is not even starting quality.

Lee is injury-prone and not starting quality and he's 8 years older than these guys. It's not like we added an expiring. We moved an expiring for another one.

You may not believe in Sully and Olynyk as players for this team, but that doesn't mean you should kill their value for someone that Golden State has repeatedly tried and failed to move for any legitimate asset.

[PhoSita]

Lee is an immediate upgrade to the mess we have now.

An immediate upgrade who manages to contribute even further to that mess.

[Scintan]

Sullinger and olynyk are not better assets than Lee's 15.4 expiring sorry.

Sullinger is perennially  overweight and injured and is n expiring as well, olynyk is not even starting quality.

You should make that a poll question.  If you're right, we need to take a long, hard look at the 2011-2013 Celtics drafts, and people's answers could get very interesting.

[LooseCannon]

I don't think Lee starts out as the starting PF.  I think he will be given the opportunity to win playing time at the expense of players who don't work hard.  A guy like Sullinger won't be allowed to coast on talent and potential.

[YeezusChrist]

What scenario though? The potential future building block at pf in sullinger? He misses substantial time every year due to injuries.

That ship has sailed. Half of his rookie season was lost due to injuries, last year was his foot yet he still packed on the pounds every year.

Let alone the fact we played better without him this year. As for olynyk, he's a bench player. We currently do not have a building block at pf, so no I don't understand the whining.

Sully and Olynyk are both better trade chips than Lee and still have the potential to be legitimate assets. By adding a trade chip that hasn't had much value for a while, we are putting ourselves in a position where it might be tough to get value for any of these 3 trade chips.

Sullinger and olynyk are not better assets than Lee's 15.4 expiring sorry.

Sullinger is perennially  overweight and injured and is an expiring as well, olynyk is not even starting quality.