Bullpett :C'S not offering max for Harris, Saving cap for bigger moves.......

[kozlodoev]

Ridiculous. Ainge needs to realize he needs to take some swings on talent. The worst part is the reason we can't sign Tobias Harris is because we signed Amir Johnson to a 12 million dollar contract. Ridiculous. If we land Tobias for less than a max then fantastic, but I highly doubt it.

Another strike on Ainge. Strike in the draft, strike in free agency so far, and strike in the trade department. Usually three strikes means you're out, but I guess we will give him one more because "In Danny we Trust".

If you think that Harris at max is better than Johnson at $12 million... heh.

[CelticSooner]

This news, combined with the news that the deals for Amir and Jerebko are only guaranteed for one year, confirms that the Celts are not excited about their options this summer and have decided to more or less run it back next season and take stock a year from now.

Disappointing.  I didn't necessarily expect huge moves in free agency.  But I'd like to see some signs that the team isn't content to go for another finish like last season.  Up or down, but not right back in the middle again.

That's my biggest problem. Last year was a nice story in part because many fans thought this summer the C's would at least add a piece to keep the rebuild going forward. Sounds like management is going to hit the pause button and settle for the 7th or 8th seed again.

[dreamgreen]

Ridicules!!

We're not doing any big moves, you have to get at least one stud on your team to talk others into coming and right now we don't have one.

What really kills me is now are highest paid bum is AJ a bench player for $12m this guy will not get more than 24 mpg. Our second highest Wallace $10m can't get off the bench. Danny should be on the hot seat right now he really should!

[Rondo9]

Steve Bulpett ?@SteveBHoop 19m19 minutes ago

Important: Reason C's not pursuing some FA isn't because they don't like them, but b/c can't afford them and stay in line for bigger move.

HAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What big moves , such nonsense

That's Danny's MO.

He's content to just keep collecting "assets" and finding ways to incrementally increase value on the roster until he can make a major move.

Who's going to trade us quality for quantity though?  Just not seeing how or when that'll happen.

Gotta remain patient and wait for moves.

[barefacedmonk]

$12 mil/yr for Amir Johnson - makes sense.

$5 mil/yr for Jonas Jerebko - makes sense.

Max for an up and coming young combo forward - Nah, that's insane.

#DannyAingeLogic

Length of contract matters, yet you don't mention that.

We have money to throw around this year. What else will we do with it? But that does not mean we want to commit money for 2 years from now if we aren't convinced a guy is a long term solution. Teams will also pay more for short term deals, while players will accept less for security, since the taking on more risk on a young guy.

So your logic isn't well thought out.

What nonsense.

That kind of money for guys like Amir and Jonas is okay because its short term but taking a chance on a player like Tobias Harris is risky?

Steve Bulpett ?@SteveBHoop 19m19 minutes ago

Important: Reason C's not pursuing some FA isn't because they don't like them, but b/c can't afford them and stay in line for bigger move.

HAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What big moves , such nonsense

Remember when the Nets signed all those duds in desperation moves the year they missed out on the big Lebron/Bosh/Wade free agent class? We aren't doing that.

Except, Nets and Celtics aren't in the same situation. We have lots of young players and picks. We can groom our youngs instead of having Amir Johnson come in and swat a shot or two in every game. Different situation. Different teams. Think of a better example.

[walker834]

We are saving cap so we can offer players ie Gerald Wallace in a trade plus the remaining cap for a big time player.

[Geo123]

Lol. Amir is our big signing. Love it.

Actually, Chowdah is. At least we brought back the Beast.

FA isn't even a day old and your complaining?  Let things play out.  I still think we'll do more trading than anything. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

So we could have waived Jonas and Crowder after the trade deadline, but wanted to add value. So we use them to make the playoffs, which hurt our team and costed us a stud, made them look good and let them play big minutes knowing it was a contract year. Jonas and Crowder then enter FA and we have a hard time signing them both because they are asking for too much.

We made the playoffs/pushed for them to add value to our assets(something ppl here like to say) and in turn we pay more money for them in FA . How did using them to make the playoffs add value to our team again?

[smiggity]

I really want the Celtics to improve their talent, too. One thing I think it is important to keep in mind about Harris, though, is that his current team has apparently decided that they don't think he is worth the max. That is interesting because the Magic are also in needed of a boost in talent, in particular offensive talent. I think the Magic front office is regarded generally as being pretty savvy, and they have had a long look at Harris. I know they just drafted Herzonja to play essentially the same position, but the Spaniard is still an unknown quantity and certainly will take time to develop. Plus, you know, they just drafted someone to play the essentially the same position.

Harris is young, showing improvement, and displaying some potentially elite offensive skills. But the Magic's evaluation of him scares me.

[Snakehead]

Steve Bulpett ?@SteveBHoop 19m19 minutes ago

Important: Reason C's not pursuing some FA isn't because they don't like them, but b/c can't afford them and stay in line for bigger move.

HAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What big moves , such nonsense

.... the big moves are in the future?  Is that really confusing?

"Big Moves" = The New Fireworks

It's just another attempt at fan appeasement.

Or it's just the truth?  They tried to make trades and deals multiple times now.  Takes two to tango.  We saw what Ainge was trying to do in the draft (make more than fair offers) but he isn't going to get fleeced.  Same goes for Free Agency.

Is this really hard to understand?  Patience is what it's about.  Deals don't fall out of the sky.

Unbelievable the pouting around here.  Do you guys think Ainge doesn't understand?  He constantly is talking about getting top level talent.  He is waiting for his chance.  He's already done it before!

[Future Celtics Owner]

We should have signed Tobias Harris instead. Not like we need help at the 4, but if we did he can play both 3 and 4.

I feel like crying. Harris would have been good for this team and still is getting better.

[Neurotic Guy]

Steve Bulpett ?@SteveBHoop 19m19 minutes ago

Important: Reason C's not pursuing some FA isn't because they don't like them, but b/c can't afford them and stay in line for bigger move.

HAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What big moves , such nonsense

.... the big moves are in the future?  Is that really confusing?

"Big Moves" = The New Fireworks

It's just another attempt at fan appeasement.

Draft was a failure.  SO far, this offseason has been a massive failure.   I'm losing faith.  With the additions of Jerebko and Johnson, we don't even have enough money to even offer a max contract.  Depending on what Jae Crowder gets, matching him might wrap up this entire offseason.  So you're basically swapping Bass for Johnson and punting on the season.

Funny how people can see the same picture and conclude something completely different.  The Johnson and Jerebko signings are a great relief to me.   I was really worried Danny was going to sign a couple of 2nd tier FAs to long-term max(ish) deals.  Instead, he signs two decent players who'll provide important dimensions to the current team on short-term deals with a non-guarantee in year 2.  I think it's brilliant.

Yes -- ABSOLUTELY punting on the upcoming season.  This is another growth year, not a year for contention (we're only 2 years into the re-build).

In 2015-16 a good half-dozen Celtics will increase their trade value while we look at being a 5-9 seed (depending on how the wind blows) in the East.  Meanwhile Brooklyn falters and Danny uses an improved set of assets with great salary flexibility and a ton of cap space to make serious moves at trade deadline or in summer of '16.

This is Danny being brilliant and patient. 

[j804]

He's probably saving our room for a disgruntled star a this years trade deadline?

[jayk009]

It's amazing to me how irrational and short sighted that alot of people on these boards are.

Not making a big signing would absolutely be the right thing to do. We are not going to overpay for marginal talent just because we can. We are trying to build a team to one day win a championship and not one that will be a perennial 5th-8th seed.

I'm glad that our GM is not the people on these boards. It has made me realize how even dedicated fans are not too smart.

Think about a rebuild..it is a 3-5 year plan, not a 2 year plan. We need to be more patient and not go crazy like we are right now.

You really think Tobias Harris is the answer for us? Please....

[Chief Macho]

we're stuck in midlevel nba hell.