Amir Johnson to Celtics

[jgod213]

Guess I'm in the minority here but I'm ok with this deal.

My money is a bit absurd, but these are the contracts we're going to be seeing going forward.  The fact that its only for 2 years is what makes it work, tho.  He'll be playing for another contract almost immediately.

He's a bit undersized for a C, but I think this is what Ainge/Stevens are kind of looking for.  He moves well for a big and can still bang with the heavies down low very well.  His numbers have been trending down, but I think he's worth a flier on a 2 year deal.  I don't think the C's were gonna have much luck in the big man FA department as it is.

[GetLucky]

Tiny guards and power forwards!!!! WOOHOO!!!

[sofutomygaha]

Unless, as Who worriedly ponders, Johnson is on a permanent decline, he's a far superior defender to Bass and at worst an equivalent offensive player.

Superior defender for sure. Equivalent offensive player not so clear. Bass can shoot and draw fouls- these are things that Johnson can't (and fortunately does not try to) do.

[YeezusChrist]

Are people confused? The cap is going UP. Not DOWN.

Most of the deals signed today league-wide will look great when the cap is adjusted.  Chill out.

I love the signing. Time to let Bass walk to a real contender. Or I wouldn't mind keeping Bass as long as we got rid of Olynyk.

As of right now we have 5 pfs signed on the roster Sully, KO, Johnson, Mickey, Jerebko and I would choose all 4 over Johnson and heres the kicker they are all much cheaper.

Where is he gonna get play time?? Why would we get rid of any of these guys when they are younger, better at the moment, and cost less?

[Who]

Anyone else p---ed off about this signing?

I'm at least ... perplexed.

Signing Amir to such a huge deal signals that the team does not expect to be much of a player in the free agent market.  Not a great surprise.

But it means that despite not being a major player, the team is willing to spend money on stop-gap options that will keep the team closer to the middle.

Settling for mediocrity does not make me happy at all.  Go big or jettison the extras and let the young guys play.

Instead we're spending $12 million per year to replace Bass with a slightly taller guy who is worse offensively and slightly better defensively.

Unless, as Who worriedly ponders, Johnson is on a permanent decline, he's a far superior defender to Bass and at worst an equivalent offensive player.

Bass was one of our better defensive bigs last year and was a lot cheaper.

Bass is a lot smaller though. An undersized PF. 6 foot 7 PF. Good for matching up against PFs and some SFs but struggles defensively at C because he is not a shot-blocker and is often too small to defend skilled Cs.

Amir Johnson is 6-11 240lbs. He has the size and athleticism to defend the center position. He gives Boston a different type of defensive presence. More shot blocking and interior defense around the basket.

[goCeltics]

Rather have had ajinca or bismack, ajinca has real size, bismack is younger, not forgetting asik, hopefully  danny has another move besides jonas and jae

[34truth]

Anyone else p---ed off about this signing?

I'm trying to find reasons why they would do this. Maybe they really believe he can play the 5? Even if that's the case, what a waste… terrible signing

[KeepRondo]

I think this was a Stevens pick. Seems like he prefers players with some toughness.

Moves since Stevens.

Smart, Rozier, Amir, Jerebko, Crowder, resigned Bradley.

Definitely see a pattern and the type of player Stevens wants. Still don't like this signing.

[Irish Stew]

Now that we signed Johnson and Jerebko, what is going on with Sullinger and Olynyk?. We don't have the cap space to offer Harris a max contract by my rough calculation. I have to feel that there is a major shoe to drop like a godfather offer for someone like Noel or Cousins, or maybe it's just wishful thinking. Seems like a massive overpay for both, especially Johnson, and should we even have signed Jerebko at all? I'm more than a little concerned right now about where this team is headed. I hope that the next move we make will clarify things a bit.

[PhoSita]

Anyone else p---ed off about this signing?

I'm at least ... perplexed.

Signing Amir to such a huge deal signals that the team does not expect to be much of a player in the free agent market.  Not a great surprise.

But it means that despite not being a major player, the team is willing to spend money on stop-gap options that will keep the team closer to the middle.

Settling for mediocrity does not make me happy at all.  Go big or jettison the extras and let the young guys play.

Instead we're spending $12 million per year to replace Bass with a slightly taller guy who is worse offensively and slightly better defensively.

Unless, as Who worriedly ponders, Johnson is on a permanent decline, he's a far superior defender to Bass and at worst an equivalent offensive player.

Bass was one of our better defensive bigs last year and was a lot cheaper.

Bass is a lot smaller though. An undersized PF. 6 foot 7 PF. Good for matching up against PFs and some SFs but struggles defensively at C because he is not a shot-blocker and is often too small to defend skilled Cs.

Amir Johnson is 6-11 240lbs. He has the size and athleticism to defend the center position. He gives Boston a different type of defensive presence. More shot blocking and interior defense around the basket.

You're giving him two inches there.  He's 6'9''.

[34truth]

Anyone else p---ed off about this signing?

I'm at least ... perplexed.

Signing Amir to such a huge deal signals that the team does not expect to be much of a player in the free agent market.  Not a great surprise.

But it means that despite not being a major player, the team is willing to spend money on stop-gap options that will keep the team closer to the middle.

Settling for mediocrity does not make me happy at all.  Go big or jettison the extras and let the young guys play.

Instead we're spending $12 million per year to replace Bass with a slightly taller guy who is worse offensively and slightly better defensively.

Unless, as Who worriedly ponders, Johnson is on a permanent decline, he's a far superior defender to Bass and at worst an equivalent offensive player.

Bass was one of our better defensive bigs last year and was a lot cheaper.

Bass is a lot smaller though. An undersized PF. 6 foot 7 PF. Good for matching up against PFs and some SFs but struggles defensively at C because he is not a shot-blocker and is often too small to defend skilled Cs.

Amir Johnson is 6-11 240lbs. He has the size and athleticism to defend the center position. He gives Boston a different type of defensive presence. More shot blocking and interior defense around the basket.

What the hell? No need to change guys heights. Bass is 6'8 and Jonhson is 6'9.. go check wherever you want

[Who]

Plus, Amir Johnson is a great center for

(1) Transition basketball (offense and defense)
(2) Defensive versatility at center, ability to step out in pick and rolls, to switch onto smaller players and in closing out on shooters.

I think going with a PF/C with speed is to better enable these elements in the Celtics game-plan.

[sofutomygaha]

This isn't a big deal.

I think everyone is mad because it isn't a Big Deal-- but before you get too upset you should also recognize that this isn't a big deal. Short term, reasonable money for a good-but-not-great veteran. This does not hamstring our ability to make the best offer for any of the giant awesome free agents or trade targets who don't want to come here.

[Forza Juventus]

Felger was asking the other day if we should be talking about Ainge being on the hot seat. At the time I thought it was a bit much. And today I think it's a good question.

And Ainge needs to tell the owner "Don't ever promise stuff like fireworks again. This is Boston. It's hard just to make fire here. Ever try to make fire in 20 feet of snow? NBA players saw that snow and didnt like it. We aren't NYC"

Avery and IT look like phenomenal contracts now.

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[KeepRondo]

Anyone else p---ed off about this signing?

I'm at least ... perplexed.

Signing Amir to such a huge deal signals that the team does not expect to be much of a player in the free agent market.  Not a great surprise.

But it means that despite not being a major player, the team is willing to spend money on stop-gap options that will keep the team closer to the middle.

Settling for mediocrity does not make me happy at all.  Go big or jettison the extras and let the young guys play.

Instead we're spending $12 million per year to replace Bass with a slightly taller guy who is worse offensively and slightly better defensively.

Unless, as Who worriedly ponders, Johnson is on a permanent decline, he's a far superior defender to Bass and at worst an equivalent offensive player.

Bass was one of our better defensive bigs last year and was a lot cheaper.

Bass is a lot smaller though. An undersized PF. 6 foot 7 PF. Good for matching up against PFs and some SFs but struggles defensively at C because he is not a shot-blocker and is often too small to defend skilled Cs.

Amir Johnson is 6-11 240lbs. He has the size and athleticism to defend the center position. He gives Boston a different type of defensive presence. More shot blocking and interior defense around the basket.

Amir is only 6'9. Plays tough for his size tho.