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Offline KG Living Legend

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I'm asking here. What's the most difficult thing we could do so the magic won't match Tobias's big contract. It's looking like hey may be are best hope at improving the team right now.

Re: How to structure Harris contract to make it difficult to match
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 01:30:33 AM »

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Also what are we talking here for the actual contract for a for year player could it be more than 4 year 65 million. I'd like to know how much we are talking and how long.

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Harris and Middleton are two guys I'd be happy to have here.  Both are restricted.  I have trouble seeing reasons why their teams wouldn't match.  It would just be stupid not to.  There's no downside.  Cap is jumping 20 mil next season and both guys will be extremely tradeable unless they suddenly fall off a cliff in the early part of the season.

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Harris and Middleton are two guys I'd be happy to have here.  Both are restricted.  I have trouble seeing reasons why their teams wouldn't match.  It would just be stupid not to.  There's no downside.  Cap is jumping 20 mil next season and both guys will be extremely tradeable unless they suddenly fall off a cliff in the early part of the season.

S&T for both of them and sign Monroe straight up.

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The Chandler Parsons contract is the standard for contracts that are hard to match.  Three years with the third as a player option, and a maximum trade kicker.

The problem with offering that kind of contract is that if Harris declines his options after two years, the Celtics would only have his early Bird rights and the cap explosion means that if he is worthy of the max in the summer of 2017, the Celtics won't be able to give him what he wants unless it has cap room to do so.  Of course, a lockout might change all that.
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Harris and Middleton are two guys I'd be happy to have here.  Both are restricted.  I have trouble seeing reasons why their teams wouldn't match.  It would just be stupid not to.  There's no downside.  Cap is jumping 20 mil next season and both guys will be extremely tradeable unless they suddenly fall off a cliff in the early part of the season.

Magic selecting Hezonja is one reason why it's possible Orlando won't match, right ?

I say give him the max. You have money, the need is there, & the kid is only 23.  He'd be a great add. You always have to overpay in free agency to land somebody, but with the cap rising, you can stomach this one.

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Guys, it would be much appreciated if you made some effort to keep this more tidy.

For instance, there is already a ton of threads on Harris why open a new one.

Point is with 10+ threads opening every day it is literally impossible to keep track of what's going on in the forum.

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just give him the Max. Magic already expressed they are not matching a near-max or max offer

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Guys, it would be much appreciated if you made some effort to keep this more tidy.

For instance, there is already a ton of threads on Harris why open a new one.

Point is with 10+ threads opening every day it is literally impossible to keep track of what's going on in the forum.
Supporting that. I admit I have zero knowledge of the more advanced CBA stuff and I would be curious to get a knowledgeable insight.
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How long does a team have to decide in they want to match a QO and what are the ramifications of this on free agency?

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How long does a team have to decide in they want to match a QO and what are the ramifications of this on free agency?

Think it is now 3 days. Meanwhile the cap space of the offering team is tied to the player for those full 3 days until the incumbent team decides to eventually match. SO could miss out of player while the incumbent team makes you wait out the full 3 days. However the waiting time used to be a week before so I guess 3 days is much better.


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The problem with offering that kind of contract is that if Harris declines his options after two years, the Celtics would only have his early Bird rights and the cap explosion means that if he is worthy of the max in the summer of 2017, the Celtics won't be able to give him what he wants unless it has cap room to do so.  Of course, a lockout might change all that.

Right now, Early Bird free agents can be signed to 175% of their prior salary.  There's a slight chance this could come into play, but I guess I have a hard time seeing Tobias Harris paid $26+ million per season, regardless of what the cap does.


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