sixers in 3 years (okafor, embiid, noel)

[sofutomygaha]

Embiid's rookie season?

Exactly =)

[heyvik]

They also have Dario Saric who will probably be a stretch four.

Hopefully the Nets pick next year is a top 5 pick. If there are only solid guards left, I can see us trading the pick for Noel.

Doubt Philly trades Okafor. And no one will want Embiid unless its a bargain trade.

Doesn't Atlanta have the right to swap positions with that pick?

The Celtics get the Nets picks for the next three years.

wow. i only thought it was 2016 and 2018, pleasantly surprised that it includes 2017 as well.

[PhoSita]

Bucks have too many elite small forwards.  Philly has too many elite bigs. If bucks want a franchise center they should move giannis or Parker for embiid or Okafor.  Both teams win.

How about this?

Philly gets Marcus Smart and Giannis.

Milwaukee gets Embiid.

Boston gets Noel.


Even everything out

[kozlodoev]

They also have Dario Saric who will probably be a stretch four.

Hopefully the Nets pick next year is a top 5 pick. If there are only solid guards left, I can see us trading the pick for Noel.

Doubt Philly trades Okafor. And no one will want Embiid unless its a bargain trade.

Doesn't Atlanta have the right to swap positions with that pick?

The Celtics get the Nets picks for the next three years.

wow. i only thought it was 2016 and 2018, pleasantly surprised that it includes 2017 as well.

It's a swap right in 2017, I believe. My only concern is that the Nets got so awful so quick that they may be able to be good again (it's the East, after all) before we make all of their picks

[LarBrd33]

I know this has been said many times before, but a Smart for Noel/Embiid/Olafor makes way too much sense for both teams. If it requires an extra pick, then so be it.

I do agree with LarBrd that a subsequent trade with Milwaukee also makes sense. If it plays out this way, Philly, Mil, and Boston would all be really solid moving forward.

Hinkie only wants superstars.  He will have better options than smart.

[PhoSita]

I know this has been said many times before, but a Smart for Noel/Embiid/Olafor makes way too much sense for both teams. If it requires an extra pick, then so be it.

I do agree with LarBrd that a subsequent trade with Milwaukee also makes sense. If it plays out this way, Philly, Mil, and Boston would all be really solid moving forward.

Hinkie only wants superstars.  He will have better options than smart.

If I were Hinkie I think I'd look at taking on Brandon Jennings for peanuts from the Pistons.

Having a competent point guard on the Philly team will be important for the development of all of those bigs.  But it would make more sense to have a guy who is more of a pure point as opposed to a player like Smart.

[Rondo9]

I know this has been said many times before, but a Smart for Noel/Embiid/Olafor makes way too much sense for both teams. If it requires an extra pick, then so be it.

I do agree with LarBrd that a subsequent trade with Milwaukee also makes sense. If it plays out this way, Philly, Mil, and Boston would all be really solid moving forward.

Hinkie only wants superstars.  He will have better options than smart.

If I were Hinkie I think I'd look at taking on Brandon Jennings for peanuts from the Pistons.

Having a competent point guard on the Philly team will be important for the development of all of those bigs.  But it would make more sense to have a guy who is more of a pure point as opposed to a player like Smart.

While Jennings is a very good passer (underrated I feel) he is a gunner first and foremost.

[LooseCannon]

I know this has been said many times before, but a Smart for Noel/Embiid/Olafor makes way too much sense for both teams. If it requires an extra pick, then so be it.

I do agree with LarBrd that a subsequent trade with Milwaukee also makes sense. If it plays out this way, Philly, Mil, and Boston would all be really solid moving forward.

Hinkie only wants superstars.  He will have better options than smart.

If I were Hinkie I think I'd look at taking on Brandon Jennings for peanuts from the Pistons.

Having a competent point guard on the Philly team will be important for the development of all of those bigs.  But it would make more sense to have a guy who is more of a pure point as opposed to a player like Smart.

I'm confused.  You talk about Brandon Jennings.  Then you talk about competent point guards.

[LooseCannon]

Sixers are more likely to be drafting another center in the lottery than playing in the Eastern Conference Finals three years from now.

[bdm860]

Hinkie holds all the cards.  Split the 96 minutes at PF/C evenly between the three. 32 minutes each... Then force the league to get into an all-out bidding war.  They own like 3 of the 5 or 6 best big man prospects in the league (the others being Davis, towns and maybe Drummond... Maybe gobert... Though I think all three Philly bigs will be better than Drummond and gobert).  Who wants a franchise big?  Everyone. They should be able to trade one for an allstar at a different position.

Sooooo jealous of philly fans.

I see this backfiring for Hinkie and Philly.

1) Have those minute splits ever worked out?  Sounds good in theory, I don't know of too many examples of it really working out though (especially with 3 players the same age).  Usually ends in the opposite where there's an odd man out and everybody ends up unhappy (like Phoenix last year with Bledsoe/Dragic/Thomas or Detroit with Monroe/Drummond/Smith or Utah with Big Al/Milsap/Kanter/Favors).

2) Hinkie is only going to deal those players in what would be a landslide victory for him.  So he's going to hold out on trading one of them until he gets a sweetheart deal, only he'll hold out too long.  Then Noel's contract will only have a year left, so nobody wants to give anything significant for him, so it's Rondo-to-Dallas or type return at best, or he walks for nothing like Greg Monroe, Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, or the player openly asks for a trade and those returns are never good either.

3) Players and agents already seem to be down on Philly.

Now, on draft day -- the most important of the year for Hinkie as the Sixers enter the third year of an organizational rebuild -- one NBA insider says agents are telling the Sixers not to draft their clients.

"There are agents that have told the 76ers not to draft their players," ESPN NBA insider Chris Broussard ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike in the Morning. "Because of the history of losing the last few years, trading away the rookie of the year Michael Carter-Williams after a great season.

There were rumors that the agents for Russell, Porzingis, and others told the Sixers not to draft their players.  I think we're making a big assumption that all those guys are going to be successful and happy in Philly and then sign extensions after their rookie deals.


So Hinke's going to demand a Godfather-esque deal to move them, wait till it's too late, then he'll get pennies on the dollar or lose them for nothing.  Meanwhile Noel, Embiid, and Okafor aren't happy sharing minutes and the ball, nor are they happy with the lack of supporting cast and constant revolving door of players, their agents aren't happy that their value is being held back, so they demand a trade and/or refuse to sign an extension.

I think the odds are against Philly that this all works out great.

[Moranis]

Isn't Greg Monroe like the only player in history to turn down basically a max contract to sign the one year qualifying offer.  I mean the odds that any of the three turn down the max contract for a qualifying offer seems pretty darn low.  Now I suspect one of them gets traded at some point, but I can't see any of them going the QO route that Monroe did.  Just is too much a risk, especially for the guys that have already missed full seasons due to injury.

[LooseCannon]

Isn't Greg Monroe like the only player in history to turn down basically a max contract to sign the one year qualifying offer.  I mean the odds that any of the three turn down the max contract for a qualifying offer seems pretty darn low.  Now I suspect one of them gets traded at some point, but I can't see any of them going the QO route that Monroe did.  Just is too much a risk, especially for the guys that have already missed full seasons due to injury.

If Monroe signs a max contract with a team that he wants to play for, does his success increase the probability that other players go the same route in the future?

[PhoSita]

Isn't Greg Monroe like the only player in history to turn down basically a max contract to sign the one year qualifying offer.  I mean the odds that any of the three turn down the max contract for a qualifying offer seems pretty darn low.  Now I suspect one of them gets traded at some point, but I can't see any of them going the QO route that Monroe did.  Just is too much a risk, especially for the guys that have already missed full seasons due to injury.

If Monroe signs a max contract with a team that he wants to play for, does his success increase the probability that other players go the same route in the future?

I doubt it.

I think in Monroe's case it was a long-term value proposition, because he stands to make more money long term if he gets out of Detroit and finds a full-time starting gig as a center, as opposed to trying to make it as a PF next to Drummond.

[SparzWizard]

Sixers lineup in the upcoming years:

PG - Jahlil Okafor
SG - Arturas Gudaitis
SF - Furkan Aldemir
PF - Nerlens Noel
C - Joel Embiid

 They trying to oppose our smallest small ball lineup!

[LarBrd33]

Hinkie says he would have taken Okafor even if Embiid was 100% healthy... and that makes total sense.  Why wouldn't you? He's the best player available.  You have to take the potential franchise player.  Deal with it later.   

There continues to be whispers that Embiid might still need some kind of surgery.  He's been meeting with doctors.  I'm naive, but I still think it has to do with getting clearance for summer league... or whether they should hold him out 4 more months until the season starts to be safe.  This is from an article today:

Embiid has been subjected to routine and regular CT scans and MRIs since the Sixers drafted him. They looked good, Hinkie said, until the pre-summer league check-up suddenly looked "different." That's the word Hinkie used over and over again. That led to the reevaluation and the late-Saturday evening statement that freaked so many people out. After getting badgered by one reporter (take a guess which one), Hinkie said you can call it a setback if you'd like, but the way the doctors described it to him was that they expected the navicular bone to be ?even more healed? than it is.

The interesting and troubling part: Hinkie said Embiid has no symptoms. No pain. No soreness. It hasn?t bothered him in "many, many weeks." It's just that the CT scan looked different.

"That's part of what makes this,  maybe confusing is the right word, confusing for [Embiid], but confusing because he feels great," Hinkie continued. "He says, 'I can't believe how good I feel. I've felt great for a while. It's hard to believe something could be wrong.'"