Poll: Should Danny Ainge be on the hotseat

[Rondo2287]

Between not being able to get a deal done last night and then taking a pick to further logjam our backcourt, last night was an unmitigated disaster. 

If the Celtics don't get an impact player this offseason I think Danny's job should be in serious jeopardy.  Not closing the deal to move up to #9 to get Winslow is an absolute huge mistake IMO and will come back to haunt this franchise. 

[littleteapot]

I'm not sure about the pick he made at 16, but it's tough to fault him for not moving up when we don't know what it would have taken. I wouldn't have mortgaged my entire team for Justice Winslow (although I do like him a lot).

I think overall last night didn't substantially change the fact that we have a bunch of mediocre assets that we have to eventually trade for stars. It just means that one more opportunity went by. It seems like Ainge's plan is to wait and wait until a great deal comes around. If he never gets that deal and we end up with a bunch of bad players who we can't move, then his job should be in jeopardy, but not now.

[Birdman]

I think this offseason will be very important for Ainge..can he get a top free agent or a trade? If he cant then we be in same boat as last year..not a winning record

[Who]

No -- but I am very patient when it comes to GMs who have a proven record of building a title winning team. I wouldn't have even fired Joe Dumars. That is how extreme I am.

There are so many bad to average GMs in the league. So many teams who fail to build top notch teams. Who don't even get close to building a title contender. Or ones who do get close but don't know have to close that final gap and waste the beautiful opportunity they created.

When you have a GM who has done that ... who has won a title, who has built that team and knows what it takes -- and only about 5 or 6 guys in the league have done that -- you hold onto him and treasure what you have.

[ssspence]

Lemme ask you this: who should replace him? Presumably you don't have a clue, which means you don't know much about NBA front offices.

If you've got a suggestion, make it. Otherwise respect What you have: one of the best GMs in basketball.

[D.o.s.]

Right on cue, it's this post draft thread. 

[fairweatherfan]

The timeframe for consolidating our assets into at least an attempted contending roster has always been from the 2015 offseason to the 2016 offseason.  We've just entered that period.  Not thrilled that we didn't move up to grab Winslow, but there are a lot of moves left to be made.  Next up is how we divvy out our cap space.

[cons]

 All I can say is I remember how bad it was for a long time before Ainge. The Celts were a true laughingstock. It seemed like they would never be good again - This was from like '92 till 07 or so, so what like roughly 15 years? Ainge delivered a championship and a ton off good runs / good teams when many before him had tried and failed miserably. I agree that last night wasn't great, but to me , it's his job till he doesn't want it. He's the guy who brought us back.

[Alleyoopster]

Not so sure I agree with many posters who feel Danny made a mistake drafting more guards.  He must have felt any forwards or centers he could have acquired at that draft position were either not better than what they already had or that he could have done better at those positions via free agency. 

We also need to be realistic here....Danny didn't want to draft at 16.  He wanted to be in the top 10.  It turned out nobody wanted our assets or the asking price was way too high to get any of those picks. 

My feeling is two weaknesses had to be addressed.  One is how teams discovered they could over-match Isaiah by putting taller players against him.  I believe Minnesota and Cleveland(?) did this best.  At times they literally scored at will against him.  Many of us love Isaiah, but realistically he posses a liability on defense against certain teams and/or players. 

From what we are hearing Rozier should actually shine as a defensive player.  The value of such defense was apparent in the way Dellavedova guarded Curry in the NBA Finals.  He proved to be a handful. Defensively, Rozier appears to be even better than Dellavedova.  Throw in Marcus Smart and Bradley and this makes for one tough back-court match-up for most teams.  Was Rozier the right player to select given the talent available?  We don't know yet.  On paper the idea seems like a good one to me. 

Drafting Hunter...another good choice.  He can shoot.  This skill is something the C's desperately had to address.  Too many times the team couldn't buy a basket.  In hindsight the Celtics only really started to gel when they acquired Prince.  Sure, he was a defensive liability because of his injuries, but with him in the lineup confidence in the offense took off.  There weren't those long scoring lulls we had become accustomed to. I don't expect Hunter to be as good as Prince. Hopefully, he will provide scoring consistency.

[incoherent]

Every draft this same exact knee jerk reaction thread gets made.

The answer is an obvious No.

[spelz]

Danny is one of the best GM in the game.  Yeah, I know of few of you will talk about Kool-Aide since I defended him, but he has made some major deals to help this franchise.  It takes two to tango, and the other teams were obviously asking for too much in return in order to move up.  I am glad we still have the two picks from the Nets to use.j

Also, Danny has been known to fleece a few GM in trades over the years.  It probably makes it harder for a fellow GM to want to trade with Danny.

[SHAQATTACK]

Same excuses

A professional sports team with NO ...ZERO ....elite talent .....in HOW many years since KG was traded ?

Same story.......putter along with cast offs ,  mid round , bench talent

More .....looking to save a dollar here ,  trade up ......like he is shopping flea market ......stop with the look what player we got for a dollar song and dance .  Just another crummy role player .

Ok ....the time is up ....he screwed around long enough ...if his PRIZED picks are not worth elite talent , then dump the team and head back into the lottery.

Danny is wasting time .....I won't be buying any tickets to watch this truck load of turds play .....he just keeps screwing around ......if all the picks aren't worth peanuts....then MOVE the " " on....with the program . 

He stands around and watches the Celtics become nothing again

This is the NBA .. Not a yard sale....dump Bass , Bradley all the rest of the non elite talent and get serious .

Get rid of the bench talent , play the D league pick into a lottery top three pick .

Oh course he is absolutely responsible .......dumb question actually ......his job is to figure out how to up the talent pool .   He is throwing spitballs at the problem .   


The next shoe to drop ......

Should be on Danny s rear end as he goes flying out the door......I hope soon too !

[dreamgreen]

I've been backing Danny the entire time but after trading for IT, making the playoffs and last nights disaster he should start feeling the heat IMO.

People need to understand we have 4 first round picks on our team from the last 2 drafts. That is almost a third of the entire roster. Next year we have how many first round picks? Danny is in a bind here because we can't keep drafting 2 players every year it wont work roster wise. He HAS to move some of these picks and right now he has found nobody that will take any of them. IMO he should stat getting worried about it, this "great" position will quickly take a 180.

[Alleyoopster]

Same excuses

A professional sports team with NO ...ZERO ....elite talent .....in HOW many years since KG was traded ?

Same story.......putter along with cast offs ,  mid round ,  junk layers.

More .....looking to save a dollar here ,  trade up ......like he is shopping flea market ......stop with the look what player we got for a dollar song and dance .  Just another crummy role player .

To advance if his picks are not worth elite talent , then dump the team and head back into the lottery

This is the NBA .. Not a yard sale....dump Bass , Bradley all the rest of the non elite talent and get serious .

Oh course he is absolutely responsible .......dumb question actually ......his job is to figure out how to up the talent pool .   He is throwing spitballs at the problem .   


The next shoe to drop ......

Should be on Danny s rear end as he goes flying out the door......I hope soon too !

Brian Scalabrine somewhat remarked about your comment last night.  He said something to the effect that many GM's are more concerned about keeping their jobs than winning championships.

Generally, a GM doesn't get to keep their job if they lose year after year.  So, the Celtic owners would have to be on board with tanking for 5-6 years.  This doesn't appear to be the case.  They seem happy with Danny trying to make incremental improvements.  Would they keep him if he made monumental moves to get worse?  I don't think they would.  The 76's are on their 3rd GM since 2011.  Honestly, would you tank if you were in Danny's shoes and you had a family to feed? 

[kraidstar]

since 1999, 4 years before ainge took over, a grand total of 7 teams have won a championship.

duncan (spurs) and kobe (lakers) account for 10 of those championships.

wade (heat) has another 3.

that leaves the boston celtics, the pistons, the mavs, and the warriors with 1 each.

so i'd say danny has done fine, he took a poor team to a championship and, after he broke that team up, and he left us with tons of young assets.

he knows he needs stars - and so far he hasn't ever been able to land that transcendent player that leads to dynasties. but don't think that's because of lack of effort. those guys are hard to get, especially when your team has continued success and misses the lottery every year.