To Everyone Who Can't Understand Why Many of Us are Angry and/or Perplexed

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Let me begin by saying that in no way am I trying to be confrontational, argumentative, unduly sarcastic, or otherwise jerky. I'm being 100% authentic.

I don't know much about Terry Rozier. Judging by reactions on this board, I'm guessing there's a lot of us CBers who don't know much about Terry Rozier. So of course we can't judge him as a player. He could turn out to be a really good Celtic, and a really good pro. I hope so. I don't want him to fail, and I don't think any of my fellow flummoxed fans want him (or any of the other three draftees) to fail. We're Celtics fans. We don't want to see any Celtic fail, and we hope they all turn out well.

That said, it's my sincere hope that you folks who are happy with this draft can understand why so many of us are either angry or perplexed or both.

There was SO much Celtics chatter from reporters, and so many rumors, not to mention Celtics brass talking a big game in recent months (looking at you, Wyc), that it was hard to believe there WOULDN'T be something big happening on draft night. Sure, there are always rumors, and they each need to be taken with a big grain of salt, but this was it, right? Tonight was the night SOMETHING wonderful was finally going to happen. I mean, how many offseasons and trade deadlines can Danny go without making a big splash? All the talk about stockpiling assets and being ready for the right deal when it comes along—I guess those draft picks and young players aren't great assets after all? Nothing we have is really that attractive? I mean, Lance Stephenson was terrible last year, turning his contract into an albatross, but Charlotte was still able to trade him and make some improvements. But Smart and our No. 16 and the Brooklyn picks couldn't get us anything?

I'm sure Danny tried his best to move up in the draft, or make some other trade to benefit the team. But how could the team's top pick be a guy whom no one had previously linked to Boston? A player whose name I can't recall seeing even ONCE on this board in all the weeks leading up to the draft? And we already have plenty of guards. Rozier seems like he may be better at scoring and ballhandling than Smart or Bradley, but his selection means either that last year's No. 6 pick will get less playing time this season, or Boston's long-term investment in Bradley was a mistake.

It's just baffling. I'm still processing all this, and maybe it'll all look better in the morning, or next week, or in training camp. But the Celtics still have no legit bigs, and no legit wing players (on the offensive end, at least), and Boston's decent cap space seems to mean very little right now, since there's no one on the roster to draw free agents, and teams who could trade us players under contract don't seem interested in our "assets."

Some people here are saying that there HAS to be a trade coming; no, there doesn't HAVE to be. The Celtics went through all of last season with an unbalanced roster. And it just got more unbalanced. And Danny seems in no rush to rectify that.

So, to summarize: We're angry and/or perplexed because ...

• Once again, there were no fireworks.

• We already had enough guards, and we drafted three more.

• We already had enough undersized bigs, and we drafted one more.

• We didn't get a legit big.

• We didn't get a legit wing scorer.

• Our top pick had never (to my knowledge) been linked with the Celtics.

If you liked our draft, I hope this helps you understand why a lot of us DIDN'T like it.

[Rondo9]

The offseason haven't started yet and already people are clamoring for Anige to get fired. Some people are even hoping that Roizen has a bad career just so he can prove Anige made a mistake. Already people are calling other fans who liked draft picks delusional or saying that they're just blind Anige fans. I understand, but this outrage is ridiculous.

[Endless Paradise]

Basically, people are upset because the Celtics just drafted a bunch of role players who don't seem to really improve or add any significantly new element to the team. Unfortunately, that's what'll happen when you're drafting with middling/bad picks.

I do hope that tonight at least shows people why those proposals of trading for (insert top lottery pick here) using the vaunted 16/28/33/45 pupu platter were absurd. Teams aren't falling over themselves to trade away prime draft picks for the right to draft a bunch of unremarkable role players.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

The offseason haven't started yet and already people are clamoring for Anige to get fired. Some people are even hoping that Roizen has a bad career just so he can prove Anige made a mistake. Already people are calling other fans who liked draft picks delusional or saying that they're just blind Anige fans. I understand, but this outrage is ridiculous to the point I feel like leaving.

As I said in the OP, I hope Rozier turns out well for us. I certainly don't think his supporters are delusional. And I'm not in a hurry to fire Ainge. But basically, this draft (for some of us) was like hoping for (or expecting) a real car for Christmas and getting the Matchbox version.

[BudweiserCeltic]

So I guess the lesson you learned is that you shouldn't be so gullible? Agreed.

[Rondo9]

Basically, people are upset because the Celtics just drafted a bunch of role players who don't seem to really improve or add any significantly new element to the team. Unfortunately, that's what'll happen when you're drafting with middling/bad picks.

I do hope that tonight at least shows people why those proposals of trading for (insert top lottery pick here) using the vaunted 16/28/33/45 pupu platter were absurd. Teams aren't falling over themselves to trade away prime draft picks for the right to draft a bunch of unremarkable role players.

Well I'm pretty sure that teams wanted more than what Danny was willing to give up.

[Forza Juventus]

We are upset because they had a bad draft. There were just as good or better players that we need more that were at the spots we picked at.

[Endless Paradise]

Basically, people are upset because the Celtics just drafted a bunch of role players who don't seem to really improve or add any significantly new element to the team. Unfortunately, that's what'll happen when you're drafting with middling/bad picks.

I do hope that tonight at least shows people why those proposals of trading for (insert top lottery pick here) using the vaunted 16/28/33/45 pupu platter were absurd. Teams aren't falling over themselves to trade away prime draft picks for the right to draft a bunch of unremarkable role players.

Well I'm pretty sure that teams wanted more than what Danny was willing to give up.

My point is 16/28/33/45 (and possibly some nonfactor benchwarmer(s)) was never a realistic package for moving into the top 10. Yet there was some kind of sentiment here that it was basically like the Celtics would be doing teams a favor by offering that number of picks, as if the fact that those picks were all mediocre at best was completely irrelevant.

[Rondo9]

Basically, people are upset because the Celtics just drafted a bunch of role players who don't seem to really improve or add any significantly new element to the team. Unfortunately, that's what'll happen when you're drafting with middling/bad picks.

I do hope that tonight at least shows people why those proposals of trading for (insert top lottery pick here) using the vaunted 16/28/33/45 pupu platter were absurd. Teams aren't falling over themselves to trade away prime draft picks for the right to draft a bunch of unremarkable role players.

Well I'm pretty sure that teams wanted more than what Danny was willing to give up.

My point is 16/28/33/45 (and possibly some nonfactor benchwarmer) was never a realistic package for moving into the top 10. Yet there was some kind of sentiment here that it was basically like the Celtics would be doing teams a favor by offering that number of picks, as if the fact that those picks were all mediocre at best was completely irrelevant.

There were players that the Celtics needed to give up (possibly Marcus Smart) or that they needed to involve a third team. I don't think all 4 picks were possible to get in the top 10.

[freshinthehouse]

So I guess the lesson you learned is that you shouldn't be so gullible? Agreed.

This.  Anyone that believes anything that Wyc says (or any owner for that matter) regarding player personnel moves needs to step back from their computer/radio/TV.  The GM is the only authority when it comes to this kind of stuff, and they are tight lipped about it for a reason.

[Endless Paradise]

Basically, people are upset because the Celtics just drafted a bunch of role players who don't seem to really improve or add any significantly new element to the team. Unfortunately, that's what'll happen when you're drafting with middling/bad picks.

I do hope that tonight at least shows people why those proposals of trading for (insert top lottery pick here) using the vaunted 16/28/33/45 pupu platter were absurd. Teams aren't falling over themselves to trade away prime draft picks for the right to draft a bunch of unremarkable role players.

Well I'm pretty sure that teams wanted more than what Danny was willing to give up.

My point is 16/28/33/45 (and possibly some nonfactor benchwarmer) was never a realistic package for moving into the top 10. Yet there was some kind of sentiment here that it was basically like the Celtics would be doing teams a favor by offering that number of picks, as if the fact that those picks were all mediocre at best was completely irrelevant.

There were players that the Celtics needed to give up (possibly Marcus Smart) or that they needed to involve a third team. I don't think all 4 picks were possible to get in the top 10.

I know; it costs a lot to move into the top 10. Some people seemed to be under the impression that it didn't - or that the quantity of picks in itself was an acceptable offer.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

So I guess the lesson you learned is that you shouldn't be so gullible? Agreed.

This.  Anyone that believes anything that Wyc says (or any owner for that matter) regarding player personnel moves needs to step back from their computer/radio/TV.  The GM is the only authority when it comes to this kind of stuff, and they are tight lipped about it for a reason.

It wasn't just Wyc. It was well-respected reporters like Woj and Stein. I don't think that's being gullible. I also don't think anyone should be put off by the fact that some of us were surprised by the selection of Rozier. It was totally out of left field.

[Hemingway]

The offseason haven't started yet and already people are clamoring for Anige to get fired. Some people are even hoping that Roizen has a bad career just so he can prove Anige made a mistake. Already people are calling other fans who liked draft picks delusional or saying that they're just blind Anige fans. I understand, but this outrage is ridiculous to the point I feel like leaving.

As I said in the OP, I hope Rozier turns out well for us. I certainly don't think his supporters are delusional. And I'm not in a hurry to fire Ainge. But basically, this draft (for some of us) was like hoping for (or expecting) a real car for Christmas and getting the Matchbox version.

I's more like ordering something online and they say it will be delivered to you sometime in the next month and you decide to get mad at the mailman every day it doesn't come.

[tarheelsxxiii]

You're correct, no need for apologies and TP. If you can't get it done moving up (that's fine, though leaked offers seemed comically outrageous), you should at least draft well at the positions you are in. We didn't. Aside from Mickey, I'll be surprised if any one sees minutes next year.

[Hemingway]

Look on the positive side. We still have Smart and no one we wanted was traded to another team. If we had traded up in the draft it might mean a longer rebuild. For all we know, Danny might know he is going to sign a top FA and wants to trade assets for more win now guys than rookies.