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The Nets picks might never be more valuable
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:19:51 AM »

Offline Smokeeye123

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Right now the Nets picks could have their highest possible value on the trade market. From the outside looking in the Nets have overpaid stars who are not producing on bad contracts. Next year could see them place somewhere in the middle of the lottery and with an injury or two close to the bottom of the league.

However their stars might wake up and actually produce. If this happens it is a nightmare for the Celtics. If the Nets make the playoffs next year the pick and the future picks plummet in value. It's honestly a game of chance with Ainge. Do I cash them in now for something or wait and see if I have high lottery picks from the Nets myself?

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 10:28:13 AM »

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Cash them in. The east is so bad, it's not too hard to make the playoffs. Those picks might only be 8-15.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 10:31:45 AM »

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If you are getting a premier player use them... However if you are going to risk to move up for a rookie I would hold on unless you feel like they are once in a 10 year player ..

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 10:38:54 AM »

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I agree, it's a gamble, they may be worth a lot now if you assume that the Nets will make playoffs 8th seed. Or, another gamble would be, they implode, Lopez walks, team starts being in the bottom and next year we have a mid lotto pick which is even higher...

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 10:43:08 AM »

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Hold tight with them.  They're unprotected.  No need to be using them on draft gambles right now.

Now if you're talking trade for a Cousins or something, then, yes, they should certainly be on the table.


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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 10:44:36 AM »

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Hold tight with them.  They're unprotected.  No need to be using them on draft gambles right now.

No, I don't trade them in draft gambles. I trade them in sign and trade deals for proven players.
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Next year the 30 year Bias disaster is put to bed, Nets crash and burn, top 3 pick is in the bank ;)
Keep the pick.
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Hold tight with them.  They're unprotected.  No need to be using them on draft gambles right now.

Now if you're talking trade for a Cousins or something, then, yes, they should certainly be on the table.

What do you mean you shouldn't roll the dice on draft gambles???

If you don't you would miss out on nabbing JUCO superstar Kedrick Brown instead of letting the pick roll over a year and getting Nene, Amare or Caron Butler? Or letting it rollover 2 years and take Melo, Bosh or Wade????

Oh, Chris Wallace....
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Hold tight with them.  They're unprotected.  No need to be using them on draft gambles right now.

Now if you're talking trade for a Cousins or something, then, yes, they should certainly be on the table.

What do you mean you shouldn't roll the dice on draft gambles???

If you don't you would miss out on nabbing JUCO superstar Kedrick Brown instead of letting the pick roll over a year and getting Nene, Amare or Caron Butler? Or letting it rollover 2 years and take Melo, Bosh or Wade????

Oh, Chris Wallace....
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Next year the 30 year Bias disaster is put to bed, Nets crash and burn, top 3 pick is in the bank ;)
Keep the pick.
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Keep the picks unless they are being used to land All-Star talent (e.g., Cousins).
But don't use them to move up 8 spots in this draft.
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I'm a proponent of holding onto them.   Does it also seem to anyone like the trade market is more liquid this year?  I guess we'll know tonight.  If so, Danny will have more flexibility with which assets get us where we need. 

With that said, if Danny/CBS have found their 'guy', (my guess is Hezonja) isn't that what the asset accumulation is for? 

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Keep the picks unless they are being used to land All-Star talent (e.g., Cousins).
But don't use them to move up 8 spots in this draft.

This.

They have a small chance of making the playoffs next year.

As of now I put the Cavs, Bulls, Hawks, Wizards, Raptors, Bucks, Celtics, And rising teams Magic and Pistons maybe above them.  Maybe the Hornets and Knicks too depending on what else they do in the offseason.

And if Lopez and Young leave the ship could sink fast.

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I think everyone has hit the nail on the head with this one. The Nets pick may be very valuable next year as they will have very little cap space to work with. I see the team imploding if Lopez and Young walk away, more so that Joe Johnson and Williams having bounce back resurgent years. As their stars age (both on a downward trend), and the teams they play in the East get better, things do not look good.

So use the pick only if we can trade for a star, as I think the pick will be slightly more valuable next year than it is right now. After that though, I think the 17 swap and 18 pick are less valuable because the salary cap explosion will let them shop around.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BRK.html

A little look at their cap situation going forward, and the projected cap next year is 67.1 million.
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For those advocating the usage of the Brooklyn picks to move up now in fear that their value will drop after this year because they could make the playoffs in a weaker Eastern conference, consider the following.  Here's the teams that finished with a similar record to the Nets and some reasonable expectations for what will happen

NO - last team to make the west.  they'll be improving.  may not make the playoffs in the west but will have a better record than the Nets.
OKC  -- missed the playoffs in the West.  Getting a pick in this draft and getting Durant back.  easily better than the Nets
MILW  - made playoffs in East.  Will be getting a decent pick this year and getting Parker back.
CELTICS - made playoffs in East.  picked up win pace after trading deadline.  adding  2/3 decent prospects even without trade but figure to be active in trades to improve.  no reason to expect step back.  will finish ahead of Nets
PHX -  likely to slide back in standings.  probably not as much as Nets though
NETS -- losing Young.  Probably Brook.  no $ to chase free agents.  no top pick for missing playoffs this year.  expecting a drop of 7-8 wins next season putting them around 30.
INDY - finished with same record.  getting Paul George back and likely to make a move to improve by moving Hibbert.  will finish better than Nets
UTAH -  finished with same record.  adding another young player (or vet in a trade for the pick) and their youth is improving.  will finish better than Nets
MIAMI -   one game  behind Nets.  full season of Dragic (expect to resign), Bosh and Whiteside.  Will finish with better record.
CHARLOTTE -  ended mess with Lance.  chemistry figures to be better and adding another lotto pick.  could very well pass Nets--I would expect it to be close
DETROIT -   another high pick added to team.  improved chemistry with Monroe leaving.  could very well pass Nets - another close call
DENVER - full tank.  should remain worse
SAC -- another high pick added to team or a couple of veterans that should improve team.  better coach.  figure a close call with the Nets
ORL - another high pick and improvement from their youth.  probably still worse than Nets, barely
LA - Kobe's back, likely to add a good FA or a couple of solid ones.  add a top pick or a good vet in a trade for that pick.  figure them to finish better than Nets if Kobe comes back close to his usual self
PHILLY - they suck and will suck next year too no matter who they draft.  Embiid and a top pick won't fix this trainwreck
NY - getting Melo back. could sign good FA.  add top pick or good player in trade of pick.  should improve to be close to Nets
MINNY - adding Towns to already solid young core.  probably worse than Nets but if Wiggins, Lavine and rest of youth movement make the leap, they could be looking at .500 record and giving us their first rounder.