Cousins to Lakers Rumors

[RMO]

Why would Sacramento do anything right now?  He's got a few years (not sure exactly how many) left on his contract.  Are they that desperate to get a guard that put up good numbers on a bad team and two players with less than 1 NBA game played between the two of them?

I understand he's unhappy but has it reached toxic yet?

[ssspence]

Smart, Zeller, Sullinger, filler, 16 this year, Nets pick next year, Nets pick 2018 for Boogie and Landry. Admittedly, a reach.

[GryphMinuteMan]

grabbed this nugget off rotoworld, so sorry for no link, plus i'm running late.



The Lakers and Kings have exchanged framework of a trade centered around DeMarcus Cousins, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.

Well, the NBA world gets one more juicy rumor before what is shaping up to be a wild Thursday. In this report, the Lakers would deal Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle and the No. 2 pick in the draft. The Kings are also expected to try and unload Carl Landry (wrist). In other news, Cousins said he "absolutely" wants to stay in Sacramento on Twitter Thursday night.





Source: Yahoo! Sports

no fireworks...just bang snaps and sparklers...again.

I'm guessing a lot of kings fans will be unhappy if they trade their perennial all star and top 5 talent to the team they hate the most. Not a smart move by managment if they're trying to get a stronger fan base.

Agreed. It's like Nash bolting to the Lakers or Ray Allen leaving for the Heat, except this time it'll be the Kings management that betrays their own fanbase.

The Lakers' offer is weak anyway...Clarkson, Randle and the #2 pick? All are unproven commodities. And that #2 pick might end up being Okafor, who looks like a bad fit next to Randle. Denver's offer of Faried + Lawson is the better offer for the Kings, at least for me.

That was my first thought. There's no way they do that deal as written.

Mike

Worth noting that the Suns traded Nash to the Lakers (and made out like bandits, all things considered).

I get your point but Nash was 38 at the time.

[Clench123]

To match that deal Danny would have to include Smart whom I don't want traded.

[greg683x]

Again Sac be crazy to turn down #2 pick, Randle, and Clarkson for Cousins..

The front office should be fired if they took that little for Cousins --> 2 defensively-challenged college players in the front court (1 having lost a full season to injury) and a mediocre guard with 1 year of experience that posted better numbers than a player of his level would on a decent team.

C's could top that fairly easily. 
-Smart>>>Clarkson (regardless of meaningless ROY voting)
-Sully or KO > Randle (LA hopes Randle turns out to be as good as either of them)
- #2 (Okafor) --> C's have multiple firsts to offer including 3 projected gems from the imploding Nets not to mention Zeller and/or Young as other good young assets.

Those three picks from the nets are peanuts compared to a #2 pick in the draft.  The nets are imploding but the eastern conference is terrible, they're still making the playoffs and they were a bad team this year. 

Sully and KO are no diamonds in the rough either.  Minnesota wanted  nothing to do either of them when we were tying to land Kevin Love, but now the kings are gonna jump all over them to trade us one of the best centers in the game?

[heyvik]

Again Sac be crazy to turn down #2 pick, Randle, and Clarkson for Cousins..

The front office should be fired if they took that little for Cousins --> 2 defensively-challenged college players in the front court (1 having lost a full season to injury) and a mediocre guard with 1 year of experience that posted better numbers than a player of his level would on a decent team.

C's could top that fairly easily. 
-Smart>>>Clarkson (regardless of meaningless ROY voting)
-Sully or KO > Randle (LA hopes Randle turns out to be as good as either of them)
- #2 (Okafor) --> C's have multiple firsts to offer including 3 projected gems from the imploding Nets not to mention Zeller and/or Young as other good young assets.

The front office is Vlade Divac - FORMER LA Laker. He's got ties there...I just don't understand why you'd trade a STAR within your own division. Makes NO sense!

[Evantime34]

Again Sac be crazy to turn down #2 pick, Randle, and Clarkson for Cousins..

The front office should be fired if they took that little for Cousins --> 2 defensively-challenged college players in the front court (1 having lost a full season to injury) and a mediocre guard with 1 year of experience that posted better numbers than a player of his level would on a decent team.

C's could top that fairly easily. 
-Smart>>>Clarkson (regardless of meaningless ROY voting)
-Sully or KO > Randle (LA hopes Randle turns out to be as good as either of them)
- #2 (Okafor) --> C's have multiple firsts to offer including 3 projected gems from the imploding Nets not to mention Zeller and/or Young as other good young assets.

I don't agree that Sully or KO is more valuable than Randle. I also don't agree that we can match the second pick with anything short of 3 or 4 firsts.

[D.o.s.]

grabbed this nugget off rotoworld, so sorry for no link, plus i'm running late.



The Lakers and Kings have exchanged framework of a trade centered around DeMarcus Cousins, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.

Well, the NBA world gets one more juicy rumor before what is shaping up to be a wild Thursday. In this report, the Lakers would deal Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle and the No. 2 pick in the draft. The Kings are also expected to try and unload Carl Landry (wrist). In other news, Cousins said he "absolutely" wants to stay in Sacramento on Twitter Thursday night.





Source: Yahoo! Sports

no fireworks...just bang snaps and sparklers...again.

I'm guessing a lot of kings fans will be unhappy if they trade their perennial all star and top 5 talent to the team they hate the most. Not a smart move by managment if they're trying to get a stronger fan base.

Agreed. It's like Nash bolting to the Lakers or Ray Allen leaving for the Heat, except this time it'll be the Kings management that betrays their own fanbase.

The Lakers' offer is weak anyway...Clarkson, Randle and the #2 pick? All are unproven commodities. And that #2 pick might end up being Okafor, who looks like a bad fit next to Randle. Denver's offer of Faried + Lawson is the better offer for the Kings, at least for me.

That was my first thought. There's no way they do that deal as written.

Mike

Worth noting that the Suns traded Nash to the Lakers (and made out like bandits, all things considered).

I get your point but Nash was 38 at the time.

Right, but he didn't 'bolt' to the Lakers so much as get traded 3-4 years too late by a cheapskate owner who has a fairly iron fist over management.

[manl_lui]

To match that deal Danny would have to include Smart whom I don't want traded.

same thought, we cannot match the Lakers offer because they got the #2, same sense that we couldn't get Love because the Cavs got the #1/Wiggins

[Chief]

Smart, Zeller, Sullinger, filler, 16 this year, Nets pick next year, Nets pick 2018 for Boogie and Landry. Admittedly, a reach.

Nobody wants the 16th pick.  And who knows about those net picks. We just assume they will be bad, but who really knows. The Lakers have the #2 pick and Okafor sitting there. It seems like a no-brainer.

[littleteapot]

Smart, Zeller, Sullinger, filler, 16 this year, Nets pick next year, Nets pick 2018 for Boogie and Landry. Admittedly, a reach.

Where are people getting this idea that teams would rather have Zeller, Sully and midround picks than the number 2 pick in a draft with an elite prospect going second?

Every other team is looking at this like "we could sign Sully or Zeller in a couple of years, or if not we could sign one of the 30 or 40 guys like them in the league." The value of the Nets picks is that they MIGHT become high lottery picks in a draft where there are good players to take. Why would the Kings take that chance when they can literally get the #2 pick in this draft and they know exactly who they can take?

[greg683x]

Again Sac be crazy to turn down #2 pick, Randle, and Clarkson for Cousins..

The front office should be fired if they took that little for Cousins --> 2 defensively-challenged college players in the front court (1 having lost a full season to injury) and a mediocre guard with 1 year of experience that posted better numbers than a player of his level would on a decent team.

C's could top that fairly easily. 
-Smart>>>Clarkson (regardless of meaningless ROY voting)
-Sully or KO > Randle (LA hopes Randle turns out to be as good as either of them)
- #2 (Okafor) --> C's have multiple firsts to offer including 3 projected gems from the imploding Nets not to mention Zeller and/or Young as other good young assets.

The front office is Vlade Divac - FORMER LA Laker. He's got ties there...I just don't understand why you'd trade a STAR within your own division. Makes NO sense!

Let's not forget Vlade was on all those kings teams that missed out on winning a title bc of the Lakers, so it's not a forgone conclusion that he has a lot of love for that team just bc he played there for a while

[ssspence]

You left out Smart. 3 established NBA players and 3 first round picks (2 unprotected from arguably the worst run / worst cap situation team in the league) instead of a below average guard, a guy who missed his whole rookie season, and Okafor? It's at the very least debatable.

[heyvik]

Smart, Zeller, Sullinger, filler, 16 this year, Nets pick next year, Nets pick 2018 for Boogie and Landry. Admittedly, a reach.

Where are people getting this idea that teams would rather have Zeller, Sully and midround picks than the number 2 pick in a draft with an elite prospect going second?

Every other team is looking at this like "we could sign Sully or Zeller in a couple of years, or if not we could sign one of the 30 or 40 guys like them in the league." The value of the Nets picks is that they MIGHT become high lottery picks in a draft where there are good players to take. Why would the Kings take that chance when they can literally get the #2 pick in this draft and they know exactly who they can take?

I am not advocating for that C's package for Boogie, but the #2 is still unproven and so is Randle - what if you end up with a Anthony Bennett 2.0 and Joel Embiid 2.0...where does that leave you in year 2? Randle is nothing but hype and #2 is an unproven commodity.

[littleteapot]

Smart, Zeller, Sullinger, filler, 16 this year, Nets pick next year, Nets pick 2018 for Boogie and Landry. Admittedly, a reach.

Where are people getting this idea that teams would rather have Zeller, Sully and midround picks than the number 2 pick in a draft with an elite prospect going second?

Every other team is looking at this like "we could sign Sully or Zeller in a couple of years, or if not we could sign one of the 30 or 40 guys like them in the league." The value of the Nets picks is that they MIGHT become high lottery picks in a draft where there are good players to take. Why would the Kings take that chance when they can literally get the #2 pick in this draft and they know exactly who they can take?

I am not advocating for that C's package for Boogie, but the #2 is still unproven and so is Randle - what if you end up with a Anthony Bennett 2.0 and Joel Embiid 2.0...where does that leave you in year 2? Randle is nothing but hype and #2 is an unproven commodity.

Smart, Randle, and all the draft picks are unproven. Zeller and Sully are proven to be mediocre.

The #2 pick is at least definitely going to be an elite prospect. Absolutely Okafor could fail to pan out. However, if you take a deal to get the Nets picks, you're just hoping one of them becomes a prospect almost as good as Okafor that has the same risks.

If you take the Lakers deal, you're guaranteed to get an elite prospect that has a chance of becoming an elite player. If you take our hypothetical deal, you have a chance to get an almost elite prospect that has a chance of becoming an elite player. The best way to give yourself a clear path to a superstar is to to take the Lakers deal.