Willie Caulie Stein

[JoeyAinge]

I know a lot of people are down on Willie, but hear me out with this point. He might be the easiest prospect to get. What I have been hearing is, he is going to drop to around 8-11. I say we could set trade up to that area. Say worst things worst, we trade up for Caulie and trade up with our 2nd pick for Justin Anderson.

Smart/ Isiah
Bradley/ Young
Justin Anderson/ Crowder
Sully/ Kelly
Stein/ Zeller

We obviously would not be championship contenders next year but we would have a great defensive young core, go after Aldridge, go after a scoring star the next couple years and we have ourself a Young Contending team.

We could contend with this team if Sullinger and Smart step it up.

We bank on Brooklyn Nets Pick next year and cap space to get our Scoring Star.

Thoughts?

[Irish Stew]

This is probably a reasonable approximation of what we would look like next year if we are able to move up in the draft but have no luck attracting a big time free agent. I like your picks of WCS and Anderson. WCS solves our obvious rim defense problem and Anderson combines elite athleticism with nice 3 point range.

[littleteapot]

Lol if any one player in this draft came with the "allows us to get Aldridge" attachment, we would obviously trade up to get him.

I don't see how the hypothetical team we could have if WCS pans out means he will pan out. I don't think anyone is arguing that he has a ton of potential.

[JoeyAinge]

Lol if any one player in this draft came with the "allows us to get Aldridge" attachment, we would obviously trade up to get him.

I don't see how the hypothetical team we could have if WCS pans out means he will pan out. I don't think anyone is arguing that he has a ton of potential.

Never did I say WCS nets us Aldridge, my post was merely saying it would be a win for us to get WCS and Anderson. That then we could go ahead and try and get us a scorer via Free Agency, Aldridge, Love are the two big name scorers out there.

[SHAQATTACK]

Anderson and WCS

Would be a haul for the Celtics


I'd lose KO to get WCS in a heart beat ......then trade draft picks for Aldridge ......it's a start anyway long as Smart and IT stays .

[A Future of Stevens]

I know a lot of people are down on Willie, but hear me out with this point. He might be the easiest prospect to get. What I have been hearing is, he is going to drop to around 8-11. I say we could set trade up to that area. Say worst things worst, we trade up for Caulie and trade up with our 2nd pick for Justin Anderson.

Smart/ Isiah
Bradley/ Young
Justin Anderson/ Crowder
Sully/ Kelly
Stein/ Zeller

We obviously would not be championship contenders next year but we would have a great defensive young core, go after Aldridge, go after a scoring star the next couple years and we have ourself a Young Contending team.

We could contend with this team if Sullinger and Smart step it up.

We bank on Brooklyn Nets Pick next year and cap space to get our Scoring Star.

Thoughts?

I echo the sentiment that we have seen before here. Getting WCS and Anderson would be a very successful draft.  My main concern with WCS is the reason he has begun to drop days before the draft. If the foot issue turns out to not be a major concern, then WCS would be a huge pickup. His athleticism is off the charts, and he appears pretty decent at actually playing defense (doesn't seem to solely rely on athleticism.) A defensive force in the paint is exactly what the Celtics need, and if he only scores 10-15 pts a game in his prime, he wouldn't be a liability. This coupled with his insane talent for switching onto the perimeter player (in a league that is still moving even further into the PnR game) makes him the kind of player you can help build a team identity around.

The closer we get to the draft, the more I fall in love with the idea of having Anderson. The only knock I can justify is that he wasn't a freshman last year. I know that lowers his ceiling, but he is known as a defensive stopper, and he was shooting 45% from 3 last year before injuring his hand. Also his athleticism is off the charts, which could be fun for a fan perspective when he rises up out of no where to dunk on somebody. People also tend to not mention that he was the leader on a Virginia team that went 30-4, so he is no scrub when it comes to a winning culture. He just seems like the perfect option for CBS' system, given his versatility to defend the 2/3 (maybe 4 in very small lineups).

Bottom line: A defensive core built around Smart, Anderson and WCS could have lock down potential in a few years. That core plus a PF (or SF) free agent scorer and the Celtics could potentially be playing some very entertaining basketball and could at least hang with some of the good teams in the East.

PG - Smart/IT
SG - Bradley/Young/Turner
SF- Anderson/Crowder
PF - Love/Sully or Olynyk (whichever is left after we move up to get WCS)
C- WCS/Zeller

PS - While I don't bank on Love coming to the Celtics, he did just opt out. Imagine that core plus Kevin Love? His defensive short comings could be hidden very well while bracketed by WCS and Anderson. Also his amazing rebounding abilities could hide WCS' lack of rebounding ability (defensive rebounding), although I believe that could be solely based on Kentucky's platoon system.

[JoeyAinge]

I know a lot of people are down on Willie, but hear me out with this point. He might be the easiest prospect to get. What I have been hearing is, he is going to drop to around 8-11. I say we could set trade up to that area. Say worst things worst, we trade up for Caulie and trade up with our 2nd pick for Justin Anderson.

Smart/ Isiah
Bradley/ Young
Justin Anderson/ Crowder
Sully/ Kelly
Stein/ Zeller

We obviously would not be championship contenders next year but we would have a great defensive young core, go after Aldridge, go after a scoring star the next couple years and we have ourself a Young Contending team.

We could contend with this team if Sullinger and Smart step it up.

We bank on Brooklyn Nets Pick next year and cap space to get our Scoring Star.

Thoughts?

I echo the sentiment that we have seen before here. Getting WCS and Anderson would be a very successful draft.  My main concern with WCS is the reason he has begun to drop days before the draft. If the foot issue turns out to not be a major concern, then WCS would be a huge pickup. His athleticism is off the charts, and he appears pretty decent at actually playing defense (doesn't seem to solely rely on athleticism.) A defensive force in the paint is exactly what the Celtics need, and if he only scores 10-15 pts a game in his prime, he wouldn't be a liability. This coupled with his insane talent for switching onto the perimeter player (in a league that is still moving even further into the PnR game) makes him the kind of player you can help build a team identity around.

The closer we get to the draft, the more I fall in love with the idea of having Anderson. The only knock I can justify is that he wasn't a freshman last year. I know that lowers his ceiling, but he is known as a defensive stopper, and he was shooting 45% from 3 last year before injuring his hand. Also his athleticism is off the charts, which could be fun for a fan perspective when he rises up out of no where to dunk on somebody. People also tend to not mention that he was the leader on a Virginia team that went 30-4, so he is no scrub when it comes to a winning culture. He just seems like the perfect option for CBS' system, given his versatility to defend the 2/3 (maybe 4 in very small lineups).

Bottom line: A defensive core built around Smart, Anderson and WCS could have lock down potential in a few years. That core plus a PF (or SF) free agent scorer and the Celtics could potentially be playing some very entertaining basketball and could at least hang with some of the good teams in the East.

PG - Smart/IT
SG - Bradley/Young/Turner
SF- Anderson/Crowder
PF - Love/Sully or Olynyk (whichever is left after we move up to get WCS)
C- WCS/Zeller

PS - While I don't bank on Love coming to the Celtics, he did just opt out. Imagine that core plus Kevin Love? His defensive short comings could be hidden very well while bracketed by WCS and Anderson. Also his amazing rebounding abilities could hide WCS' lack of rebounding ability (defensive rebounding), although I believe that could be solely based on Kentucky's platoon system.

Worst comes to worst, we trade Avery to get into the top 10 (obv. Have another pick attached probably 28)

Draft WCS with that.
Then at 16 Nab Anderson.

I believe that is very doable and Danny could probably do that right now if he wanted to. I just think he's keeping all tabs open. Especially Kevin Love because I know he's in Love with Love  .

This is probably the lowest I will tolerate the celtics doing.
I will be pretty upset if we end up just drafting a Turner or Dekker at 16 and staying put.

My auto must have's in this draft are
Russell, Winslow, WCS, Anderson. The others I could live with in the 20s range. These guys will be solid nba players. Then fill the roster with Vets and One Scoring Star.

[A Future of Stevens]

It will definitely be a fun day and a half as there are so many different ways DA can take the team. Staying at 16 (without trading for a higher pick, as your scenario of getting into top 10 and keeping 16 would be awesome) would not be a good look for the Celtics in my opinion. Dekker really doesn't do anything for me, and I don't really see many difference makes slotted at that spot. I think I am a little higher on Myles Turner than you, as I think he could develop into one of the best bigs from this class. If the Celtics moved up for him, it would signal a longer rebuild, which is okay.

I just really hate the prospect of having to bank on a FA Star signing with Boston. It doesn't seem like the most likely option to occur, but I am sure Danny has a few tricks up his sleeve. In Danny we trust.

[Rosco917]

I know a lot of people are down on Willie, but hear me out with this point. He might be the easiest prospect to get. What I have been hearing is, he is going to drop to around 8-11. I say we could set trade up to that area. Say worst things worst, we trade up for Caulie and trade up with our 2nd pick for Justin Anderson.

Smart/ Isiah
Bradley/ Young
Justin Anderson/ Crowder
Sully/ Kelly
Stein/ Zeller

We obviously would not be championship contenders next year but we would have a great defensive young core, go after Aldridge, go after a scoring star the next couple years and we have ourself a Young Contending team.

We could contend with this team if Sullinger and Smart step it up.

We bank on Brooklyn Nets Pick next year and cap space to get our Scoring Star.

Thoughts?

I like the above thoughts, we get a young upgrade at center, someone that can defend and protect the rim. We still have Zeller. We spend almost no money for this upgrade.

We have money to spend for a free agent or two to upgrade the Sully/KO situation, and add another shooter someplace.

We have a young strong defensive minded team, that has potential to score the ball by adding FA's

[SHAQATTACK]

Winslow 1 st

Then ,

WCS

[spikelovetheCelts]

Wow another Willie Caulie Stein Thread oh boy.
With that being said. He will look good in green.

[crimson_stallion]

Sounds good to me.

Honestly, I've had my eye on WCS since last year's draft - I was hoping Ainge would go after him back then (with our second pick) as he was projected a lot lower than he is this year.

If we get WCS without having to give up too much (I'd be happy to give up Sully or Bradley) then I'd be absolutely thrilled.

The reason I'd be happy to give up Sully / Bradley are:

Sully:
He's like to expect a big pay day next season when his contact expires, so keeping him past this season doesn't help us much.  May as well deal him, and if we really need another PF we can try to re-sign Bass (who right now probably wouldn't cost us much).

Bradley:
Because as much as I like him, I do think we'd be even more dangerous with Smart and Thomas as our starting backcourt.  I'd still like to keep Bradley because I like that three guard rotation, but he's not completely irreplaceable...so if trading him helps us fill a desperate need (e.g. rim protection) I'm up for that.