If Smart is the sticking point

[D.o.s.]

Yeah I really love Marcus i do, but If we landed Demarcus and he had to go i'm sorry but you have to do it. With our Trade Exceptions and cap space we should be able to move on. I have the dream scenario of landing Boogie and getting either LMA or Love.

That would be the bomb-diggety. I'm tired of small-ball lineups, which only get you so far. Some will point to this year's Warriors to prove me wrong, but even though GS had some success with small ball, they still utilized David Lee and Festus Ezeli quite a bit, as the team got steamrolled whenever Draymond Green tried playing center against legit bigs such as Timofey Mozgov and Tristan Thompson.

I want frontcourt dominance. Now!!! 

Yeah they got steamrolled by Mozgov's 28-10 performance... in a game that they (GS) won by 20 points.

[walker834]

I don't think Ainge just deals Marcus.   This team ahs been building and he is our most talented player currently.  I dont think we necessarily scrap that for one player and rebuild again.   Unless we can get a star later but even still.  Why wouldnt we just keep Marcus in that instance?

[walker834]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

[Donoghus]

Smart shouldn't be a sticking point if the return is Cousins.   He's certainly expendable there.  Everyone on our roster is plus the draft picks.

My only concern would be a gross overpay. 

[walker834]

The issue I ahve is if we deal for Cousins it most likely means we are also trading up.   This draft is that way where we  might be able to get up this draft and send a player Sac's way.  I would keep Marcus.  We also can get up this draft and get a player to trade or pair with Marcus longterm with the players we have.  I don't deal that for Cousins.  Homie don't play that lol.

[D.o.s.]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

[LarBrd33]

Am I the only one who thinks this draft is tremendously overrated?  I think there's 3 good players and a bunch of mediocrity.  I like last year's draft more... even now.

And the funny thing, it doesn't even sound like the experts think this is a better draft.  They had 9 guys in the top tiers last year...  5 this year.   And yet people talk about it like it's loaded with talent.  I don't really agree. 

Anyways... I'd trade the entire team and most of our picks for Cousins.   I don't know if that's the best offer, but as long as we still have room for two max contracts when the dust settles, I'm all-in baby.   This team is loaded with role players.  There isn't a single guy on this roster that is a bonafied NBA starter.

[walker834]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

Cleveland doesnt trade Wiggins unless it nets them Lebron james.  That's how it went down or did you forget?

[Roy H.]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

Cleveland doesnt trade Wiggins unless it nets them Lebron james.  That's how it went down or did you forget?

The Cavs had Wiggins and Lebron on the roster at the same time.

[walker834]

Am I the only one who thinks this draft is tremendously overrated?  I think there's 3 good players and a bunch of mediocrity.  I like last year's draft more... even now.

And the funny thing, it doesn't even sound like the experts think this is a better draft.  They had 9 guys in the top tiers last year...  5 this year.   And yet people talk about it like it's loaded with talent.  I don't really agree. 

Anyways... I'd trade the entire team and most of our picks for Cousins.   I don't know if that's the best offer, but as long as we still have room for two max contracts when the dust settles, I'm all-in baby.   This team is loaded with role players.  There isn't a single guy on this roster that is a bonafied NBA starter.

I agree it's overrated.  Why I think the celtics should be able to trade up reasonably and then trade out plus picks for a player to pair with Marcus.

[D.o.s.]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

Cleveland doesnt trade Wiggins unless it nets them Lebron james.  That's how it went down or did you forget?

Cleveland trading Wiggins had nothing to do with them signing LeBron in free agency. Wiggins was traded for Kevin Love, and was traded presumably with LeBron's approval, but what you're saying is factually incorrect.

[walker834]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

Cleveland doesnt trade Wiggins unless it nets them Lebron james.  That's how it went down or did you forget?

Cleveland trading Wiggins had nothing to do with them signing LeBron in free agency. Wiggins was traded for Kevin Love, and was traded presumably with LeBron's approval, but what you're saying is factually incorrect.

It was still because they had Lebron though.  They were planning to move Wiggins for Love once they got him.

[blink]

There's nobody on this team that's "untouchable" . Marcus does some special things, but I wouldn't be mad at Ainge one bit if he was traded to net something better.

100% how I feel.  If smart needs to go in a package to get Cousins, so be it.  I like Smart and would love to see him develop as a Celtic as well but...cmon if there is a way to get boogie here that involves smart and not giving away all of your assets you pull the trigger.

[D.o.s.]

Think about it.  Andrew Wiggins netted Lebron james.  Marcus could equal someone like Cousins but even still.  We aren't trying to be the Cavaliers. We are trying to beat them.

Riight now we have so many picks we can keep Marcus and do other things.

What on earth are you talking about.

Cleveland doesnt trade Wiggins unless it nets them Lebron james.  That's how it went down or did you forget?

Cleveland trading Wiggins had nothing to do with them signing LeBron in free agency. Wiggins was traded for Kevin Love, and was traded presumably with LeBron's approval, but what you're saying is factually incorrect.

It was still because they had Lebron though.  They were planning to move Wiggins for Love once they got him.

I feel pretty safe in asserting that if LeBron had said "I want you guys to keep Wiggins" Cleveland would not have traded him.

Either way, Wiggins didn't "net" LeBron. Wiggins "netted" Kevin Love. That's like the difference between getting set up on a blind date with Marilyn Monroe or a blind date with Marilyn Manson.

[sed522002]

I don't think Ainge just deals Marcus.   This team ahs been building and he is our most talented player currently.  I dont think we necessarily scrap that for one player and rebuild again.   Unless we can get a star later but even still.  Why wouldnt we just keep Marcus in that instance?

Newsflash: We aint done rebuilding..lol. That  brief playoff stint *aka sweep* (in a watered down, anemic East) was cute, but this isn't our finished product by a long shot. I trust Danny to make the right decisions with the appropriate players. I'm just not attached to any of them to say that they are the center piece of a championship team, which is our ultimate goal.