Think you guys missed the point on the trades. He wasn't being 100% as in that was the trade and is it fair. He is asking if we project them (Dallas and BKN picks) high can the C's use those picks to move high up this draft. It's also why OP ask where do you project those picks. It's basically questions on future picks values if used this year. No need to tear into those "examples".
Putting out trade examples and saying "how about" invites comments. Teams make trades based on their own self interests so trade proposals ought to take that into account. Here's a realistic proposal with a future 1st.
Miami: #16 and 2016 Dallas 1st
Boston: #10
Miami is likely to be well over the luxury tax line this year. They've also traded away 3 future 1sts. With this trade, Miami would still get a good pick this year while saving money and they'd pick up a future 1st.
Well I'd think if you see the entire context of the post then the question would have a better response. But if you jump to the end I can understand your view.
By the way I don't feel Heat do that trade despite having some reasoning to it. Think they want to flip pick for roster depth that is experienced as they are in win now mode.
I think the Heat would prefer to use the pick to improve their current roster too (e.g. Sully and #16 for #10). However a trade like that may not be available to them. If that is the case and there is no one available at #10 that Riley really likes, I think they'd make the trade I proposed.
As for the OP's projection of our future picks, I'd say they are reasonable but I don't think we are going to get three top 10 picks from the Brooklyn trade. However future picks are less valuable than equivalent current picks unless a team needs to trade out for cap/tax reasons.
True, but I think future picks can have significant value in the year or two before they convey.
For example, let's say Lopez opts out and signs with Milwaukee (Part of the reasoning behind the Ilysova deal, IMO). Those Brooklyn picks, all three of them but the 2016 one most so, will become seriously sought after commodities. If that happens, they'll almost surely be a top-10 lottery team.
So the Kings start off the season really poorly, Cousins is horribly unhappy. The Kings are gonna be a lot more interested in the package we can offer because it has two or three Top-15 or so picks on top of young players and other picks. That can be the difference between including Smart or not.
I guess I'm saying I agree with you, just that I don't think a pick needs to have a number attached to it to hold significant value. The Nets are about as screwed as you can get if Lopez leaves.