Using 16th pick to dump Gerald Wallace

[Rida]

Just a thought here, if Ainge wants to re-sign crowder and Jerebko or Bass or Diatome, we are going to need some additional wiggle room if we also want to offer a max or near max contract to Love, Aldridge, Butler, Monroe, Monta Ellis etc

Would #16 be enough to dump a year of Gerald Wallace's contract in order to have $10 million dollars more to spend on free agents?

I am positive its a strategy Ainge has considered.

for a team that is desperate for multiple picks and is under the cap enough to do it outright like the 76 ers or a team like the Clippers that might do a sign and trade for a player like Jamal Crawford as they don't have a first rounder this year. The Mavs also might do it for a sign and trade for Monta if they don't want to re-sign him in order to make a run at Aldridge.

I think this could be a realistic outcome if we can't move up.

[Evantime34]

The only way I would dump Wallace at all is if Ainge found out through back channels that we can 100% get two top free agents. We shouldn't try to obtain extra cap space at the cost of a pick unless we know we are going to use it. Even then I think the 16th pick just to dump Wallace is horrendous value for the C's.

[Rida]

Just a thought here, if Ainge wants to re-sign crowder and Jerebko or Bass or Diatome, we are going to need some additional wiggle room if we also want to offer a max or near max contract to Love, Aldridge, Butler, Monroe, Monta Ellis etc

Would #16 be enough to dump a year of Gerald Wallace's contract in order to have $10 million dollars more to spend on free agents?

I am positive its a strategy Ainge has considered.

for a team that is desperate for multiple picks and is under the cap enough to do it outright like the 76 ers or a team like the Clippers that might do a sign and trade for a player like Jamal Crawford as they don't have a first rounder this year. The Mavs also might do it for a sign and trade for Monta if they don't want to re-sign him in order to make a run at Aldridge.

I think this could be a realistic outcome if we can't move up.

[jambr380]

How about using the #28 instead?

[Ilikesports17]

no.

Wallace should be moveable with 28 or you can stretch him making it 2.5 million a year for 4 years.

You could also use a future protected first to dump him. You only do any of this if you have 2 max bigtime FAs lined up to come to Boston. Otherwise just keep his leadership and let the bad contract expire.

16 would be hugely dissapointing

[Rida]

The only way I would dump Wallace at all is if Ainge found out through back channels that we can 100% get two top free agents. We shouldn't try to obtain extra cap space at the cost of a pick unless we know we are going to use it. Even then I think the 16th pick just to dump Wallace is horrendous value for the C's.

Can you trade draft picks for upcoming free agents as sign and trades?

[Rida]

How about using the #28 instead?

I don't see anyone buying 28 for 10 million dollars, do you?

[Rida]

no.

Wallace should be moveable with 28 or you can stretch him making it 2.5 million a year for 4 years.

You could also use a future protected first to dump him. You only do any of this if you have 2 max bigtime FAs lined up to come to Boston. Otherwise just keep his leadership and let the bad contract expire.

16 would be hugely dissapointing

Why take the cap hit for 4 more years at a time when you hope to be competing?

[LooseCannon]

I am positive its a strategy Ainge has considered.

I am positive that using the 16th pick to dump Gerald Wallace is something that Ainge has seriously considered only if he is looking at ways to get fired.

[saltlover]

How about using the #28 instead?

I don't see anyone buying 28 for 10 million dollars, do you?

As has been pointed put a million times, the Soxers are paying Javale McGee $12 million this season, after having also taken on 1/3 of his $11.5 million salary last season, for a top 18 protected pick from OKC (so likely will be in the 20s if it conveys, or wil never convey, due to the strength of the West.). Is that more valuable than 28?  Yes, but marginally so, and it was for 20% more future cap room, and 50% more total dollars.  So I'd say 28 is closer to the cost than 16 is.

But also, there's little point in trading Wallace until a better use of that money comes along.  I'd rather pay slightly more to urgently move him than pay to move him only to have $10 million unused cap space.

[flybono]

The only way I would dump Wallace at all is if Ainge found out through back channels that we can 100% get two top free agents. We shouldn't try to obtain extra cap space at the cost of a pick unless we know we are going to use it. Even then I think the 16th pick just to dump Wallace is horrendous value for the C's.

AMEN Brother! 

[jambr380]

How about using the #28 instead?

I don't see anyone buying 28 for 10 million dollars, do you?

As has been pointed put a million times, the Soxers are paying Javale McGee $12 million this season, after having also taken on 1/3 of his $11.5 million salary last season, for a top 18 protected pick from OKC (so likely will be in the 20s if it conveys, or wil never convey, due to the strength of the West.). Is that more valuable than 28?  Yes, but marginally so, and it was for 20% more future cap room, and 50% more total dollars.  So I'd say 28 is closer to the cost than 16 is.

But also, there's little point in trading Wallace until a better use of that money comes along.  I'd rather pay slightly more to urgently move him than pay to move him only to have $10 million unused cap space.

I always love reading what you have to say saltlover. You have really become one of the most respected and articulate members of CB.

[hwangjini_1]

How about using the #28 instead?

I don't see anyone buying 28 for 10 million dollars, do you?

As has been pointed put a million times, the Soxers are paying Javale McGee $12 million this season, after having also taken on 1/3 of his $11.5 million salary last season, for a top 18 protected pick from OKC (so likely will be in the 20s if it conveys, or wil never convey, due to the strength of the West.). Is that more valuable than 28?  Yes, but marginally so, and it was for 20% more future cap room, and 50% more total dollars.  So I'd say 28 is closer to the cost than 16 is.

But also, there's little point in trading Wallace until a better use of that money comes along.  I'd rather pay slightly more to urgently move him than pay to move him only to have $10 million unused cap space.

goodness gracious!!  do my eyes deceive me, or has saltlover actually used an exaggeration!!?? 

[LGC88]

How about using the #28 instead?

I don't see anyone buying 28 for 10 million dollars, do you?

As has been pointed put a million times, the Soxers are paying Javale McGee $12 million this season, after having also taken on 1/3 of his $11.5 million salary last season, for a top 18 protected pick from OKC (so likely will be in the 20s if it conveys, or wil never convey, due to the strength of the West.). Is that more valuable than 28?  Yes, but marginally so, and it was for 20% more future cap room, and 50% more total dollars.  So I'd say 28 is closer to the cost than 16 is.

But also, there's little point in trading Wallace until a better use of that money comes along.  I'd rather pay slightly more to urgently move him than pay to move him only to have $10 million unused cap space.

goodness gracious!!  do my eyes deceive me, or has saltlover actually used an exaggeration!!?? 

Nice one, TP 

[positivitize]

Wallace's contract goes from baggage to an asset in one season. If it's not hurting us (and it isn't unless you think we're going to sign 2 max guys this off season) then we should keep it and trade it when it turns into an asset. How awesome would it be if we could get a first rounder for Wallace's expiring contract? How excellent would it be if Wallace's expiring facilitated us getting Boogie Cousins?

Keep Wallace. He's got a good attitude and he's gonna turn into an asset soon enough. Besides, 2016 is when the real free agent madness happens.