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Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »

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Speaking of which:

Bulpett: Why Celtics’ pursuit of Kevin Love is unlikely to heat up

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2015/06/bulpett_why_celtics_pursuit_of_kevin_love_is_unlikely_to

Blah blah blah.

According to Bulpett, the Celts won't improve at all this year and we'll probably have to wait til hell freezes over for the Celts to win another championship.

Not exactly. 

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Add into that the uncertainty of what can happen between now and the end of draft night when the Celtics have two picks in each round and the potential for major trades. The chance that the roster could be altered significantly is very real, bringing with it the potential for yet another perspective.
Bulpett's point was that the circumstances last summer were different and the fate of Rondo and Green were dependent on Love's acquisition which seems reasonable and made the Love acquisition a higher priority.

As far as Bulpett's claim that Ainge was upset about getting into the playoffs, Danny wouldn't say that even if true. However, Danny did say that he was happy that the Cs were playing meaningful games late in the season which is at odds with Bulpett's and certain CBloggers' tanking-gone-wrong narrative.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/26/ainge-season-wont-be-a-failure-if-celtics-miss-playoffs/

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I'm reading the same thing from every NBA pundit who talks about the Cs this off-season. Ainge is looking to make big deals. There's no way he's making all those picks the next 4 years, he's got a ton of cap room, he's got the temperament to take risks, and he has the support of ownership to do so.

Bullpett thinks that Love only had interest in Boston last season, and the C's had interest in him, because we had "stars" to put him next to in Rondo and Green. He thinks that once we traded them, any real chance of Love coming here as a FA in the next year or two went out the window because why would Love wanna come here without Rondo and JG to play with? It's almost like he's totally ignored what his colleagues have said on the subject. Both Woj and Lowe, IMO the most well connected two NBA journalists today, have said both the Celtics and Love still have that same mutual interest.

Look, nearly everyone with an ounce of league connections has been saying Love is going to opt-out this summer and at the very least explore his options. He could choose to re-sign in Cleveland, if they want him back after he opts out, but he's still probably gonna look around. It's pretty much a three horse race for him between the Cavs, the Lakers and Boston. Anyone who says we aren't at least in the running for Love is being too pessimistic.

Bulpett is basing his conjecture on some idea that Love wants to come play on a team with "stars" and since we lack those, he won't come. But the whole reason Love will probably opt out is because he doesn't want to waste away his prime relegated to being a stretch-4, and more importantly, he just doesn't fit in with LeBron and his hand-picked posse over there in Cleveland. Love wants to be an offensive focal point on a team that can compete in the playoffs and has a locker room he can feel comfortable in. Why would Love want to come here and play with a Rondo/Green led team that couldn't sniff the playoffs in the weak east, but wouldn't want to play on a clearly superior team that while lacking in stars, has a good young supporting cast who made the playoffs last year without him, who have an excellent coach and a tight-nit locker room led by one of his best friends in IT? That sounds more appealing than Rondo and Green, for sure.

If Love decides to leave Cleveland, Boston has a legit chance at grabbing him. The guy likes Boston, he likes the Celtics and now that IT is here, he may finally find a place he can be comfortable in that can maximize his talents. That matters to him, more than most people probably realize.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2015, 10:26:13 PM »

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Has a player ever been fined for tampering, I always thought of it as front office type thing.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2015, 10:34:08 PM »

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Speaking of which:

Bulpett: Why Celtics’ pursuit of Kevin Love is unlikely to heat up

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2015/06/bulpett_why_celtics_pursuit_of_kevin_love_is_unlikely_to

Blah blah blah.

According to Bulpett, the Celts won't improve at all this year and we'll probably have to wait til hell freezes over for the Celts to win another championship.

Not exactly. 

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Add into that the uncertainty of what can happen between now and the end of draft night when the Celtics have two picks in each round and the potential for major trades. The chance that the roster could be altered significantly is very real, bringing with it the potential for yet another perspective.
Bulpett's point was that the circumstances last summer were different and the fate of Rondo and Green were dependent on Love's acquisition which seems reasonable and made the Love acquisition a higher priority.

As far as Bulpett's claim that Ainge was upset about getting into the playoffs, Danny wouldn't say that even if true. However, Danny did say that he was happy that the Cs were playing meaningful games late in the season which is at odds with Bulpett's and certain CBloggers' tanking-gone-wrong narrative.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/26/ainge-season-wont-be-a-failure-if-celtics-miss-playoffs/

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I'm reading the same thing from every NBA pundit who talks about the Cs this off-season. Ainge is looking to make big deals. There's no way he's making all those picks the next 4 years, he's got a ton of cap room, he's got the temperament to take risks, and he has the support of ownership to do so.

Bullpett thinks that Love only had interest in Boston last season, and the C's had interest in him, because we had "stars" to put him next to in Rondo and Green. He thinks that once we traded them, any real chance of Love coming here as a FA in the next year or two went out the window because why would Love wanna come here without Rondo and JG to play with? It's almost like he's totally ignored what his colleagues have said on the subject. Both Woj and Lowe, IMO the most well connected two NBA journalists today, have said both the Celtics and Love still have that same mutual interest.

Look, nearly everyone with an ounce of league connections has been saying Love is going to opt-out this summer and at the very least explore his options. He could choose to re-sign in Cleveland, if they want him back after he opts out, but he's still probably gonna look around. It's pretty much a three horse race for him between the Cavs, the Lakers and Boston. Anyone who says we aren't at least in the running for Love is being too pessimistic.

Bulpett is basing his conjecture on some idea that Love wants to come play on a team with "stars" and since we lack those, he won't come. But the whole reason Love will probably opt out is because he doesn't want to waste away his prime relegated to being a stretch-4, and more importantly, he just doesn't fit in with LeBron and his hand-picked posse over there in Cleveland. Love wants to be an offensive focal point on a team that can compete in the playoffs and has a locker room he can feel comfortable in. Why would Love want to come here and play with a Rondo/Green led team that couldn't sniff the playoffs in the weak east, but wouldn't want to play on a clearly superior team that while lacking in stars, has a good young supporting cast who made the playoffs last year without him, who have an excellent coach and a tight-nit locker room led by one of his best friends in IT? That sounds more appealing than Rondo and Green, for sure.

If Love decides to leave Cleveland, Boston has a legit chance at grabbing him. The guy likes Boston, he likes the Celtics and now that IT is here, he may finally find a place he can be comfortable in that can maximize his talents. That matters to him, more than most people probably realize.

That's not really what the article was about.  This, in a nutshell, was:

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This year, even though Love’s path to Boston could seemingly be more clear -- all he has to do is opt out of the final year of his contract, not wait out a trade -- things have gotten significantly more problematic from a Celtics point of view.


Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2015, 11:18:15 PM »

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IT and Love have been close friends for a loooong time.They used to sleep at each others homes back in their younger days playing AAU together.

Surprised this isn't common knowledge around here...?

Dunno if this makes the OP'S message idea more/less exciting to those that didn't know this?
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2015, 11:22:52 PM »

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Speaking of which:

Bulpett: Why Celtics’ pursuit of Kevin Love is unlikely to heat up

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2015/06/bulpett_why_celtics_pursuit_of_kevin_love_is_unlikely_to

Blah blah blah.

According to Bulpett, the Celts won't improve at all this year and we'll probably have to wait til hell freezes over for the Celts to win another championship.

Not exactly. 

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Add into that the uncertainty of what can happen between now and the end of draft night when the Celtics have two picks in each round and the potential for major trades. The chance that the roster could be altered significantly is very real, bringing with it the potential for yet another perspective.
Bulpett's point was that the circumstances last summer were different and the fate of Rondo and Green were dependent on Love's acquisition which seems reasonable and made the Love acquisition a higher priority.

As far as Bulpett's claim that Ainge was upset about getting into the playoffs, Danny wouldn't say that even if true. However, Danny did say that he was happy that the Cs were playing meaningful games late in the season which is at odds with Bulpett's and certain CBloggers' tanking-gone-wrong narrative.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/26/ainge-season-wont-be-a-failure-if-celtics-miss-playoffs/

===

I'm reading the same thing from every NBA pundit who talks about the Cs this off-season. Ainge is looking to make big deals. There's no way he's making all those picks the next 4 years, he's got a ton of cap room, he's got the temperament to take risks, and he has the support of ownership to do so.

Bullpett thinks that Love only had interest in Boston last season, and the C's had interest in him, because we had "stars" to put him next to in Rondo and Green. He thinks that once we traded them, any real chance of Love coming here as a FA in the next year or two went out the window because why would Love wanna come here without Rondo and JG to play with? It's almost like he's totally ignored what his colleagues have said on the subject. Both Woj and Lowe, IMO the most well connected two NBA journalists today, have said both the Celtics and Love still have that same mutual interest.

Look, nearly everyone with an ounce of league connections has been saying Love is going to opt-out this summer and at the very least explore his options. He could choose to re-sign in Cleveland, if they want him back after he opts out, but he's still probably gonna look around. It's pretty much a three horse race for him between the Cavs, the Lakers and Boston. Anyone who says we aren't at least in the running for Love is being too pessimistic.

Bulpett is basing his conjecture on some idea that Love wants to come play on a team with "stars" and since we lack those, he won't come. But the whole reason Love will probably opt out is because he doesn't want to waste away his prime relegated to being a stretch-4, and more importantly, he just doesn't fit in with LeBron and his hand-picked posse over there in Cleveland. Love wants to be an offensive focal point on a team that can compete in the playoffs and has a locker room he can feel comfortable in. Why would Love want to come here and play with a Rondo/Green led team that couldn't sniff the playoffs in the weak east, but wouldn't want to play on a clearly superior team that while lacking in stars, has a good young supporting cast who made the playoffs last year without him, who have an excellent coach and a tight-nit locker room led by one of his best friends in IT? That sounds more appealing than Rondo and Green, for sure.

If Love decides to leave Cleveland, Boston has a legit chance at grabbing him. The guy likes Boston, he likes the Celtics and now that IT is here, he may finally find a place he can be comfortable in that can maximize his talents. That matters to him, more than most people probably realize.

That's not really what the article was about.  This, in a nutshell, was:

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This year, even though Love’s path to Boston could seemingly be more clear -- all he has to do is opt out of the final year of his contract, not wait out a trade -- things have gotten significantly more problematic from a Celtics point of view.

Yeah, but why is it more problematic for the Celtics now? I think Bulpett is trying to say it's because the roster is more "in flux" than it seemed at this time last year.

But to me, that doesn't make sense. It's certainly not a secret that Ainge is trying to bring high-level talent here in any way possible, be it the draft, trades or FA this summer. How does that not jive with a Love pursuit. I'd actually say this team is a better fit for Love now than it was a year ago, and I'm not the only one who thinks that. It's plainly obvious that the tanking is over. Bullpett said earlier that he wouldn't be surprised if we has a worse team next year. Maybe in record if we struggle, or if we package a bunch of our guys for a high lottery pick, but Ainge is clearly looking to make this team better.

I just don't get it, why are we in a worse position to get Love this year than last? I think if the playoff push showed us anything, it's that our current group is a lot better option going forward in just about every way, including in a Love pursuit, than a Rondo/Green led team.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2015, 12:23:29 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.
I would have preferred missing the playoffs, but I think it is nonsensical to throw the word 'tank' around. Were we going to trade everyone away? Just give away everyone to be bad?

But if we miraculously land a top FA, kudos to the team for making the Celtics seem enticing through their minor success in reaching the playoffs.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2015, 12:37:21 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.
I would have preferred missing the playoffs, but I think it is nonsensical to throw the word 'tank' around. Were we going to trade everyone away? Just give away everyone to be bad?

But if we miraculously land a top FA, kudos to the team for making the Celtics seem enticing through their minor success in reaching the playoffs.

Hey no one thought that the Celtics were going to make the playoffs this year.

Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2015, 03:08:59 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.

The crucial point you're ignoring is that the Lakers are in far greater need of a top 5 pick than us because they have a drastically inferior roster to ours. That's the whole purpose of the draft.


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Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2015, 03:11:22 AM »

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Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2015, 05:20:48 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.

The crucial point you're ignoring is that the Lakers are in far greater need of a top 5 pick than us because they have a drastically inferior roster to ours. That's the whole purpose of the draft.
The Lakers have the best player on both teams and will have the 2nd and 3rd best players sometime in early July when they add okafur and whichever FA they decide to sign.  Lakers roster with healthy Kobe and randle was not drastically worse than the C's.  The Lakers embraced the tank.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas hinting on Love in tweet!
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2015, 06:06:51 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.

The crucial point you're ignoring is that the Lakers are in far greater need of a top 5 pick than us because they have a drastically inferior roster to ours. That's the whole purpose of the draft.
The Lakers have the best player on both teams and will have the 2nd and 3rd best players sometime in early July when they add okafur and whichever FA they decide to sign.  Lakers roster with healthy Kobe and randle was not drastically worse than the C's.  The Lakers embraced the tank.

Whatttt? The Lakers have the best player on either team? Who's that? The ghost of Kobe Bryant? Thomas is a far superior player to Kobe in his current state, and far superior to anyone else they have on that team, even when Townes or Okafor get there.

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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2015, 07:17:38 AM »

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No one cares about tampering unless it's done by the New England Patriots. In fact no cares about any infractions unless it's done by the Pats.

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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2015, 09:47:18 AM »

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Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?

Nope. Just heresay and speculation as usual. I'm sure Ainge was happy that the celtics showed such a marked improvement after trading Rondo and acquiring IT and Crowder and the Swede that they earned a playoff spot and raised the attractiveness of playing in Boston under CBS to potential free agents.

I can't understand why anyone would rather have made the playoffs than have pick 10 or 11 right now.  Even better, big tank to a top 5 and possibly strike gold like the dang Lakers.  As I felt during the playoff run, once draft time comes around the first round is a distant memory, and we'd be glad for the asset of a top 10 (or so) pick.  Attractiveness was not raised much by being a hustling 4 and out 7th seed with a bunch of mediocre players, IMO.

Yes, I know most of you disagree.

The crucial point you're ignoring is that the Lakers are in far greater need of a top 5 pick than us because they have a drastically inferior roster to ours. That's the whole purpose of the draft.
The Lakers have the best player on both teams and will have the 2nd and 3rd best players sometime in early July when they add okafur and whichever FA they decide to sign.  Lakers roster with healthy Kobe and randle was not drastically worse than the C's.  The Lakers embraced the tank.

This is like the ultimate grass is greener on the other side post. Kobe is bad now and has no idea how to take a lesser role. Okafor is completely unproven in the NBA, and while he may have an Al Jefferson type of impact on offense, he may be a complete sieve on defense. Same with Randle. I wouldn't just assume they'll sign a big FA either. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2015, 10:13:12 AM »

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For the record, the tampering thing was tongue in cheek.

Is there any proof that Anige was angry that the Celtics made the playoffs?
The sentiment comes from an old Boston Herald article, I think from March but maybe early April, that was arguing against the C's making a playoff run. The actual quote was something like "It’s not my goal to be an eighth seed in the playoffs, my goal is to win championships, and we’re a long way from that.


But, then, of course, ther's this:
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Being in the playoffs would be nice from that standpoint, having a couple of weeks of hard games to prepare for and focus. I think that’s even more valuable than what we’re going through right now, which is valuable. I’m excited about the last five games of the season, to see how it turns out.  It’s been a very positive year whatever happens in these last five difficult games ahead of us. But I believe there’s been a lot that’s been accomplished. It’s a credit to the players and the coaches. You could be the greatest coach in the world but if you got players that don’t have character to understand where the team is at and what’s happening . . . It could be tough on any coach and I think it’s a credit to Brad [Stevens] and the players that they’re playing and developing a reputation of a team that shows up to play and they’re playing hard and they’re playing to win. They’re achieving a lot for a team that probably doesn’t have as much talent on paper as the teams they’re competing against.

“I’ve tempered my expectations. During the [Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green] trades, I just didn’t know how it was going to work out this year. But I’m excited for the players. I want them to have success and I want my coaches to have success. I’m just like anybody else. I’m rooting for their success.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/04/07/onhoop/tlJUQwtncO3oOh1uQDev4L/story.html

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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2015, 10:29:44 AM »

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