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Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« on: June 08, 2015, 10:53:19 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 11:03:46 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
must be me but I don't see Winslow as the sure thing that would justify this deal for the C's and to be fair, I don't think the Knicks would go for this either.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 11:10:44 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB

Knicks will be in Win Now Mode, I think we could possibly keep Young

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 11:13:34 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
must be me but I don't see Winslow as the sure thing that would justify this deal for the C's and to be fair, I don't think the Knicks would go for this either.

If the Knicks see the same way then yes a trade can workout

Knicks are not big on Mudiay, Winslow, Wcs , Porzingis(not even in the conversation).  It was the top 3 or nothing/trade. Roster needs to be filled in now.  If they had a stud center or pg I think they take Winslow. But bc Anthony plays sf , im not sure how Winslow will fit

Celtics on the other hand have a nice system and need a nice player like Winslow to help the team move fwd

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 11:21:50 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
must be me but I don't see Winslow as the sure thing that would justify this deal for the C's and to be fair, I don't think the Knicks would go for this either.

If the Knicks see the same way then yes a trade can workout

Knicks are not big on Mudiay, Winslow, Wcs , Porzingis(not even in the conversation).  It was the top 3 or nothing/trade. Roster needs to be filled in now.  If they had a stud center or pg I think they take Winslow. But bc Anthony plays sf , im not sure how Winslow will fit

Celtics on the other hand have a nice system and need a nice player like Winslow to help the team move fwd
I think the Knicks would expect to get a lot more than this offer.  someone would like to get Mudiay and quite probably have a better 'established' player than Sully to offer.

Oh, and I don't see the fascination for Mickey.  another undersized PF.  also hesitant to take another Syracuse big man in Christmas.  have more interest in Wood at 28.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2015, 11:29:02 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
must be me but I don't see Winslow as the sure thing that would justify this deal for the C's and to be fair, I don't think the Knicks would go for this either.

If the Knicks see the same way then yes a trade can workout

Knicks are not big on Mudiay, Winslow, Wcs , Porzingis(not even in the conversation).  It was the top 3 or nothing/trade. Roster needs to be filled in now.  If they had a stud center or pg I think they take Winslow. But bc Anthony plays sf , im not sure how Winslow will fit

Celtics on the other hand have a nice system and need a nice player like Winslow to help the team move fwd
I think the Knicks would expect to get a lot more than this offer.  someone would like to get Mudiay and quite probably have a better 'established' player than Sully to offer.

Oh, and I don't see the fascination for Mickey.  another undersized PF.  also hesitant to take another Syracuse big man in Christmas.  have more interest in Wood at 28.

 I like Wood also. Dont think he will be there at 28.

I will happy with one or two of Mickey, Christmas, Wood , Holmes.  To replace Bass and possibly Jerebko off the bench. And to add some above the rim presence

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 11:54:00 AM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
must be me but I don't see Winslow as the sure thing that would justify this deal for the C's and to be fair, I don't think the Knicks would go for this either.

If the Knicks see the same way then yes a trade can workout

Knicks are not big on Mudiay, Winslow, Wcs , Porzingis(not even in the conversation).  It was the top 3 or nothing/trade. Roster needs to be filled in now.  If they had a stud center or pg I think they take Winslow. But bc Anthony plays sf , im not sure how Winslow will fit

Celtics on the other hand have a nice system and need a nice player like Winslow to help the team move fwd
I think the Knicks would expect to get a lot more than this offer.  someone would like to get Mudiay and quite probably have a better 'established' player than Sully to offer.

Oh, and I don't see the fascination for Mickey.  another undersized PF.  also hesitant to take another Syracuse big man in Christmas.  have more interest in Wood at 28.

 I like Wood also. Dont think he will be there at 28.

I will happy with one or two of Mickey, Christmas, Wood , Holmes.  To replace Bass and possibly Jerebko off the bench. And to add some above the rim presence

I would pull that trigger in a heartbeat, but not sure if the Knicks would want Sully + Young or whatever draft picks we have. If they do, then I would absolutely gamble on taking the 4th pick. Sully's back issues still scares me, idk why, but it does

now if we can use the 4th to take Winslow, I would do it, or if we can use it to trade for another star, I would do that too.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2015, 12:01:22 PM »

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Winslow is a prize for an eastern conf . Contender or would be contender.

His incredible strength , youth , athleticism , speed . Confidence .....gives a team the ability to corral LeBron and not let him run wild .   

The East needs Winslow to stay in the East .......

I believe he could be THE difference maker for a team wanting to get past the Cavs over the next few years .



Love to see the pressure Winslow and Smart could put on LeBron

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2015, 12:11:48 PM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
I think that any hope of a trade for the 4th pick would have to include Smart and both 16 and 28.  I don't think that we're the right trade partner.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2015, 12:17:06 PM »

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Winslow would be a great fit under CBS. Near perfect fit. And he is a clutch player as we saw his impact during the tourney.  Underrated jump shot that becomes more accurate in the late stages of the game.

Trade idea

To Knicks: Sullinger , Young, 16th, 45th
To Celtics: 4th, Calderon

4th pick: Winslow. 

28th pick: Mickey
33rd pick: Christmas

Potential 4th quarter defensive lineup
Mickey
Crowder
Winslow
Smart
AB
I think that any hope of a trade for the 4th pick would have to include Smart and both 16 and 28.  I don't think that we're the right trade partner.

I do really like Smart. But i would trade smart ,16 and 33 for winslow

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2015, 12:19:44 PM »

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I think the idea of moving up with the Knicks is good although not sure this deal gives them enough of what they want.  To win-now, they need players that they believe can be plugged in and contribute right away.  I am not sure that either Sullinger or Young meet this criteria.  They are also cupboard bare when it comes to draft picks so offering future picks is something they would be interested in I would think.

Unfortunately, our cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to established players although certainly we have the future draft picks.  I see the Knicks being more interested in players like Thomas, Bradley, and Turner (pick two) plus #16 and maybe a future Brooklyn.  I know this seems like a lot but I think it is what it will take.  Maybe we try this:

Thomas, Turner, #28, 2016 Brooklyn

for Calderon and #4

I don't think the 2016 pick will be as high as #4 but it is a risk.  In this deal, we still get to keep #16 this year.  That #4 pick is much more valuable to the Celtics right now than the Knicks but we won't be the only ones interested in trading with them.  Other teams may be able to offer better players so we have to beat that with better picks.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2015, 12:31:53 PM »

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The thing that worries me about trading up with NY is that their position at 4 demands a lot in return if they were to trade with us, but after Townes, Okafor and Russell the talent drops off a notch, making what the Knicks would want in a trade more than their pick is actually worth.

Of that second tier group, I definitely like Winslow the most but I think there's a pretty good chance he falls until at least 5, 6 or 7. Im sure DA is doing this, but since Sacramento, Orlando and Denver all could conceivably trade back for the right deal, I'd be trying to set up deals with all of them and seeing how far Winslow goes down. Most of these guys have a pretty good idea who each other is gonna pick, especially if they have a vested interest in it like the C's do.

As someone else said though, I don't think that trade is enough for them. They want either an established, border-line All-Star plus some scraps for that pick or of they're willing to take a guy like Sully, their gonna need more than one. Young is an intriguing piece, and for some teams I think he could seal the deal in a big trade, but not for the Knicks. They don't want to develop him for the next 3 years and watch him grow, they want guys who are gonna put on their uniform in the next two years and be contributors on a Melo-led playoff team. Phil isn't interested in extra picks or guys like Young.

Plus, who knows if they even want Sully. There's a lot of mutual interest between Greg Monroe and NY, so acquiring a guy like Sully on draft night before FA begins might not be in their best interest. I don't think Jackson is starting to realize just how far away his team really is, and I'm starting to doubt if he's gonna be there for even the next four or five years.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2015, 01:31:22 PM »

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In a different thread, a number of posters, myself included, believed that fair compensation to get to Detroit at #8 was Olynyk, 16, and 28. I don't think that NY will move out of the top ten, but if they do I think that they need to get at least a potential all-star in return along with our two picks. Only Smart barely fits that criteria. Thomas, Turner, 28, and 2016 Brooklyn pick isn't enough. Guys comparable to Thomas and Turner can be had in free agency and the Brooklyn pick is dependent on what they do in trades and is a full year away. Getting to 4 is going to be really painful and NY may just not be interested anyway in what we have to offer.

Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2015, 01:48:23 PM »

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Do yourself a favor and just let go of this dream that the Knicks will trade #4 to the Celtics.

The best the Celts can hope for is to get involved in some way in a trade between the Knicks and another team.  Perhaps the Celts can pick up a top 10 pick by throwing in a couple of their more established assets in order to sweeten the pot for NY.
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Re: Trade with Knicks idea for Winslow
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2015, 01:51:42 PM »

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In a different thread, a number of posters, myself included, believed that fair compensation to get to Detroit at #8 was Olynyk, 16, and 28. I don't think that NY will move out of the top ten, but if they do I think that they need to get at least a potential all-star in return along with our two picks. Only Smart barely fits that criteria. Thomas, Turner, 28, and 2016 Brooklyn pick isn't enough. Guys comparable to Thomas and Turner can be had in free agency and the Brooklyn pick is dependent on what they do in trades and is a full year away. Getting to 4 is going to be really painful and NY may just not be interested anyway in what we have to offer.

If you read the rumor mill as of late ,knicks like Lyles and also Payne.  I bet they rather have a chance to draft these two vs drafting one of Winslow or Mudiay.

They are more than the 4th pick to make the playoffs next season (unless they can bring in key FAs). So far Carroll kind of players are interested in joining, not guys like LA, Love etc.

They need to add players through the draft and or via trade.  Before going into FA.

What about this 3 way trade idea

To Knicks: 8th, 16th
To Pistons: Sully, Young, 33rd
To celtics: 4th

Knicks select : Payne and Lyles
Pistons select: Jarell Martin
Celtics: Winslow, Mickey, 45th(draft and stash)