How much can #16 + 2016 Brooklyn pick can get you

[Megalodon]

I wonder how much can you move up just by combining #16 and 2016 BKN 1st. Since BKN is trimming salary and is in a bad shape, it is fair to assume that the pick will be in the lottery.

One point of reference would be Trey Burke trade. He was taken with #9, which utah got for #14 and #21. Obviously, 16 is better than 21, and BKN pick should be better than 14, but a year delayed.

Do you think that Heat's #10 is a fair value for those two picks? (I am inclined to think they would happily do the trade; they are against the cap[higher pick = lower cap hit], need to resign wade, and owe a lot of picks in the future to other teams).

Do you think that these two picks plus #28 this year is a fair value for Sacramento's #6? (They also owe a lot of future picks and can select Lyles/Portis with #16 to complement Cousins)

[GreenPride17]

That combination could probably get you #6-9 in his draft but we're probably better off holding on to it because it could be worth #6-9 itself next year

[LarBrd33]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

[Eddie20]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

Stars? Plural no less. Name them.

I wouldn't trade the Nets pick. Too much potential. Rather trade our 16 pick.

[Celts Fan 508]

Hypothetically, the Lakers draft Russell, 76ers draft Okafor.  Would 16, Young, and Brooklyns 2016 pick be enough for Embiid, Noel, or Okafor? 

[GC003332]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

You said that the Nets would have the second best record in the East next year now they have slipped to 12-18 in the draft. 

[Eddie20]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

You said that the Nets would have the second best record in the East next year now they have slipped to 12-18 in the draft. 

He said that? If so, he's the Mike Felger of the blog, simply looking for a reaction.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I would not do it. I think it is better value to trade Avery and another player for Myles Turner. Then draft Upshaw with the 16th pick.

Also if we go just wait we can have a great pick in next year's draft, which has some potentially great 3s

[tazzmaniac]

Hypothetically, the Lakers draft Russell, 76ers draft Okafor.  Would 16, Young, and Brooklyns 2016 pick be enough for Embiid, Noel, or Okafor?

No.  Dropping from 3 to 16 is a huge drop.  Young couldn't even get playing time last season so he doesn't have much value.  Chances are the Nets 2016 pick will be late lottery or mid 1st.  Also, the Sixers already have 4 probable 1st rounders in 2016.  The offer would have to be the 16, Smart and Brooklyn 2016 for the Sixers to consider it. 

[LarBrd33]

Hypothetically, the Lakers draft Russell, 76ers draft Okafor.  Would 16, Young, and Brooklyns 2016 pick be enough for Embiid, Noel, or Okafor?

no

[LarBrd33]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

You said that the Nets would have the second best record in the East next year now they have slipped to 12-18 in the draft. 

He said that? If so, he's the Mike Felger of the blog, simply looking for a reaction.

No.   I didn't say that.  He's taking something I said out of context and simply looking for a reaction.

I said that I expect the Nets pick next year to end up 12-18, but based on the talent there and how disgusting the Eastern conference is, I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish much better.   Not like I'm expecting it.  It just wouldn't surprise me.  They have talent.   Point I was making is that the Nets finished strong and have made the playoffs for a few years in a row.   They'd have to get hit by injures or let guys like Thad Young and Brook Lopez walk to bottom out.  Since they have no draft pick over the next 3 years, I assume they'll keep trying to be as competitive as possible.  I wouldn't bet money on them bottoming out.  Also, I made those comments like a month ago after their season was already over.  Why would my opinion of them dramatically change between then and now?  Makes no sense.

Look, I say some outlandish stuff.  No need for people to start fabricating things.  I predicted the 2012-13 Lakers would finish 82-0.  If you're looking to discredit me, stick to things I've actually said.

[konkmv]

I would never trade the nets pick... never

[LarBrd33]

I would never trade the nets pick... never

You'd trade it mid-season if the Nets are well on their way to a playoff performance.  We don't have a huge need for mediocre talent taken in the middle-to-late 1st round.   Some might argue it's better to trade that Nets pick now while it appears they could bottom out.  The trade value of that pick might never be higher.  Never know.   It's a gamble. 

[GC003332]

Brooklyn pick is probably 12-18 unless they get rid of their stars. 

Pick gains value because of the unknown (perhaps it can be top 3)

But the pick loses value because teams want instant gratification.

So how much can #16 and #15 get you?    Probably #6-9?

You said that the Nets would have the second best record in the East next year now they have slipped to 12-18 in the draft. 

He said that? If so, he's the Mike Felger of the blog, simply looking for a reaction.

No.   I didn't say that.  He's taking something I said out of context and simply looking for a reaction.

I said that I expect the Nets pick next year to end up 12-18, but based on the talent there and how disgusting the Eastern conference is, I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish much better.   Not like I'm expecting it.  It just wouldn't surprise me.  They have talent.   Point I was making is that the Nets finished strong and have made the playoffs for a few years in a row.   They'd have to get hit by injures or let guys like Thad Young and Brook Lopez walk to bottom out.  Since they have no draft pick over the next 3 years, I assume they'll keep trying to be as competitive as possible.  I wouldn't bet money on them bottoming out.  Also, I made those comments like a month ago after their season was already over.  Why would my opinion of them dramatically change between then and now?  Makes no sense.

Look, I say some outlandish stuff.  No need for people to start fabricating things.  I predicted the 2012-13 Lakers would finish 82-0.  If you're looking to discredit me, stick to things I've actually said.

I don't need to discredit you, you do a pretty good job of it yourself.
You clearly stated that with Young and Lopez back and with good health that they could be the second best team in the East.Funny when people pull you up on things you post you always change the narrative to be suit yourself.
Great skill to have besides knowing other people's motivations of course.

[Grindfather]

Brooklyn probably won't make the playoffs next year. Cleveland, Atlanta, Washington, Toronto, Chicago, and Milwaukee will all still be good, while Indiana gets Paul George back, Miami gets Bosh back plus the 10th pick, Detroit is improving, and the Celtics will be there. I don't see Brooklyn beating any of those teams out. Lopez will probably opt out and if he wants a better situation, The Nets are cooked. Thad Young and Deron Williams decaying corpse ain't getting them very far.

That's all to say, lets wait it out with those Nets picks.