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Offline TA9

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If you haven't seen it yet, the All defense teams were announced today;
NBA All-Defensive First Team: Kawhi Leonard, Draymond Green, Tony Allen, DeAndre Jordan, Chris Paul
NBA All-Defensive Second Team: Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Andrew Bogut, John Wall, Tim Duncan

It turns out that Sully and Isaiah were both disappointed as Avery didn't make either of the teams:
Isaiah
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Isaiah Thomas: Avery Bradley Not 1st or 2nd team all defense? They gotta start letting the players choose these awards smh
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Isaiah Thomas: At the end of the day PLAYERS know who deserves all the awards... We need to give players some type of chance to vote!

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Jared Sullinger: Hahahahaha so Avery Bradley doesn't make 1st or 2nd team all defense!!!! What a joke man!!! Are you guys watching what I am watching?
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Jared Sullinger: I need a analytical stat of Avery Bradley defense please

Marcus Smart didn't get many votes either;
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Brian Robb: Avery Bradley did not make All-Defense team, but received 26 overall points with 5 first team votes. Marcus Smart got 2 second team votes. Twitter @CelticsHub

Do you guys think that Marcus or Avery should have been voted in?
In my personal opinion both Marcus and Avery are better defensively than John Wall and Chris Paul, but these "All-(Insert category here) teams" are often popularity contests, hence that our guys weren't included ::)
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Offline Rondo9

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In the NBA's defense, they are all really good defenders. It wasn't like last year where Patrick Beverley was chosen over Tony Allen.

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But Chris Paul over John Wall?

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Thought Marcus might get more second team consideration. Only 2 votes?


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weird the second team has 3 bigs... 
I woulda had AB over Duncan this year.

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Just use it as motivation for next season.

If you're good (and BOTH AB and Marcus ARE very good defenders) then their efforts won't be denied for long.

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Avery's defense is solid, though it hasn't been as good since he started taking more shots.

I don't see anybody on either All-Defensive team that deserved it less than Bradley or Smart.

I'm fine with 3 bigs on the second team, too.  Big men make a much larger impact on defense.  That's Bradley's biggest problem.  He's too small to make a big impact defensively, especially considering he plays SG but is best at defending point guards.

Most of the other players on those lists have the ability to cover multiple positions.
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Just use it as motivation for next season.

If you're good (and BOTH AB and Marcus ARE very good defenders) then their efforts won't be denied for long.

Yeah, you almost need to build up that reputation. I know Avery kind-of has it, but it's been a few years and that was KG's [defensive team]. What will help is that both of these guys are exceptional defenders so gaining the reputation as an entire backcourt rather than just a singular defender will go a long way.

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John wall over ab?

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Too bad Avery didn't make one of the teams. It would have possibly added to his value for when we trade him to the Heat/Pacers. :)

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All these awards are made to please the average fans. So it needs to contain players that everybody knows.
Die hard fans, players and office people know AB is the best defense player at his position. And Marcus is catching up very fast. I ever wonder if it didn't surpass him at the end of the season.
Anyway like IT said, at the end of the day, all the players know who are the one who deserve this award. And I'm good with that.
Same goes with 6th man of the year, everybody knows who he is ;-)

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They come off as mentally weak cry babies to me.
The fact is all off those guys selected made their teams have substantially better records than the Celtics.
Granted the Celtics had a nice second half of the season, but those guys contributed to far greater success than either Bradley or Smart over the course of the WHOLE season.

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I am just glad that we have both of them on our team.  Smart will make 1st team one day.

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You can tell this is all about reputation, because is there anyone that really thinks that Bradley was better defensively than Smart this year? Smart didn't blow him away defensively, but I think he clearly was a better defender. Didn't expect either of them to make it, because there are "sexier" options out there on better and more popular teams. Not too knowledgeable of John Wall, but I can't imagine that he deserved it anymore than Bradley or Smart other than being on a better team.
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John Wall is the best defensive PG in basketball. It is a disgrace that he wasn't a First Team All-Defense selection.

Bloody Chris Paul (again!). CP3 is a well above average defensive PG but there are several better defensive PGs than he is. He shouldn't be anywhere near either of these teams. Guys like John Wall, George Hill or Brandon Knight. Celtics own Marcus Smart or Avery Bradley. Mike Conley. Jrue Holiday. All of these guards are better defenders than CP3 is but CP3 gets in on reputation.