Should we offer DA Jordan the max

[greece66]

There are credible rumours that there is some friction between Jordan and Chris Paul.
Which means that Jordan might become available this summer.
So, I set up this little poll about whether we should offer him a max.

Tbh, to me this a no brainer: you get an elite rim protector (2.2 bpg), the league's leading rebounder, and also the player with the highest FG%. And he has (barring injury)  5-6 years of high level bball in front of him. The real questions are whether he is really considering leaving the Clips, or this is the usual bs rumours that appear after an early playoff elimination; and whether he would consider coming to the C's.

My own take is that if decides indeed to leave (that's a big if) we have better chances getting him than either Love or Aldridge (the first is probably not leaving Cleveland, the second is more likely to end up somewhere in Texas).
 
(Yes, granted, he can't shoot to save his life, but if he could we would be talking of the second coming of Hakeem.)

Source: http://www.celticsblog.com/2015/5/18/8621445/deandre-jordan-could-be-a-free-agent-target-for-boston-celtics

[CelticSooner]

He'd be the first person I call at midnight on July 1.

[Hemingway]

Sure. I'd offer a max to all the top unrestricted FAs. Unless Lebron and Gasol want to both come here, I don't see how we could better spend our money.

[Rosco917]

Other than Gasol, and we know he's not coming, I can't think of one free agent that would make more of an impact on this Celtic team. We would have one of the best defensive ball clubs in basketball the second after he signed the contract. Even with the two defensive liabilities we have at power forward now. Other free agents would surely be looking our way.

Another scorer and we're talking seriously competing to come out of the east.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This might be a moneyball type of question, but could we get DJ's production for a cheaper price (less than 20 million a year)?

I mean, we do not have a big playoff-type presence inside right now, and we need one to be a championship team. But could we get a big presence for half the price? Could we get his rim protection (both BPG and OFG% at the rim) for a cheaper price? Could we get his rebounding rate for a cheaper rate?

We've definitely got to consider him, considering the price, athleticism, and obvious way he fills our needs, but if we make a mistake on the wrong guy at this point in the rebuild, then we will have no money to spend on go-to franchise players who put us over the top.

I'm not saying no. I'm just nervous because of his obvious deficiencies.

[Rosco917]

This might be a moneyball type of question, but could we get DJ's production for a cheaper price (less than 20 million a year)?

I mean, we do not have a big playoff-type presence inside right now, and we need one to be a championship team. But could we get a big presence for half the price? Could we get his rim protection (both BPG and OFG% at the rim) for a cheaper price? Could we get his rebounding rate for a cheaper rate?

We've definitely got to consider him, considering the price, athleticism, and obvious way he fills our needs, but if we make a mistake on the wrong guy at this point in the rebuild, then we will have no money to spend on go-to franchise players who put us over the top.

I'm not saying no. I'm just nervous because of his obvious deficiencies.

I need an example of who you're thinking.

[Ilikesports17]

I know they are all not realistic but for due-diligence purposes Ainge needs to make a verbal max offer to all the elite guys the second it is allowed

Leonard
Gasol
Aldridge
Jordan
Butler

Id also make the same offer to the guys in the tier below

Harris
Monroe

Regardless of fit or weather or not they are perfect players. They are all guys whose market value would probably be well above the 16-19 mil it will cost to acquire them.

[CeltsAcumen]

No,

He shoots under 50% for the FT line and cannot be relied upon at the end of the game.  I would offer him 3/4th of a max contract because Jordan will not be in the game in the 4th bc teams will just hack him.

There is a reason why the Clippers are not that good, Griffin and Jordan are overrated.

Then again, its not a big deal to offer him the max.  Jordan will get offered the max by many teams.  I doubt the Celtics are 1st on his list.

I like guys who can shoot FTs.

Jordan has no real "shot" either.  I wonder how much of his game is really just dunking.

[gpap]

DEFINITELY!!

[jpotter33]

Without a doubt. Plus, he'll help potentially bring in any other potential free agents.

[LooseCannon]

If you have to pay him the max, DeAndre Jordan might not even be in my top five of free agent centers I want to see sign with the Celtics.

[Ilikesports17]

This might be a moneyball type of question, but could we get DJ's production for a cheaper price (less than 20 million a year)?

I mean, we do not have a big playoff-type presence inside right now, and we need one to be a championship team. But could we get a big presence for half the price? Could we get his rim protection (both BPG and OFG% at the rim) for a cheaper price? Could we get his rebounding rate for a cheaper rate?

We've definitely got to consider him, considering the price, athleticism, and obvious way he fills our needs, but if we make a mistake on the wrong guy at this point in the rebuild, then we will have no money to spend on go-to franchise players who put us over the top.

I'm not saying no. I'm just nervous because of his obvious deficiencies.

I need an example of who you're thinking.

Joakim Noah would probably be the closest thing. A good rebounder and defender. Doesnt have the youth or athleticism of Jordan but Id say they are similar threats on offense.

[greece66]

@ CeltsAcumen
Offering Jordan less than the max = making no offer at all

[crimson_stallion]

This might be a moneyball type of question, but could we get DJ's production for a cheaper price (less than 20 million a year)?

I mean, we do not have a big playoff-type presence inside right now, and we need one to be a championship team. But could we get a big presence for half the price? Could we get his rim protection (both BPG and OFG% at the rim) for a cheaper price? Could we get his rebounding rate for a cheaper rate?

We've definitely got to consider him, considering the price, athleticism, and obvious way he fills our needs, but if we make a mistake on the wrong guy at this point in the rebuild, then we will have no money to spend on go-to franchise players who put us over the top.

I'm not saying no. I'm just nervous because of his obvious deficiencies.

I need an example of who you're thinking.

Joakim Noah would probably be the closest thing. A good rebounder and defender. Doesnt have the youth or athleticism of Jordan but Id say they are similar threats on offense.

If his stats last year are anything to go off, not even close.

Noah only averaged 1.3 blocks per 36 this season (not that far above Bass, Sully and Olynyk) and last time I checked his rim protection stats (points and FG% allowed at the rim) also ranked up about on part with Sully and Olynyk.

Noah's defense is not what it once was - not sure if it's due to injury (and hence will improve) or if he's just lost a step somewhere along the line, but he is definately no replacement for DeAndre Jordan.

I'd say the closest thing to that would be either Hassan Whiteside or Nerlens Noel - if you can drag either of them over, they might be able to give you some of what Jordan does at a much lower price.   

I'd probably prefer that to be honest, because as much as we need DeAndre's skills, it's a lot of money to pay for a guy who is (for all intents and purposes) just a really, really, really good role player. 

If we could add a guy like Noel or Whiteside at center, then we could use free agency to chase some of the more talented offensive PF's (Monroe, Aldridge, Milsap) which I think would be better use of that cap space.

Adding either Monroe / Aldridge / Milsap along with either Noel / Whiteside would dramatically improve this team IMO.

Needless to say you can throw Demarcus Cousins in that mix, though I didn't bother because I'm pretty sure our chance of getting him is miniscule lol

[crimson_stallion]

Sure. I'd offer a max to all the top unrestricted FAs. Unless Lebron and Gasol want to both come here, I don't see how we could better spend our money.

I'll play devil's advocate and say Monroe and Aldridge

Most deadly offensive front-court in the NBA? Possibly.