All about Greg Monroe

[oldutican]

and Thompson grabbing all those off. rebounds? That doesn't happen with Monroe on the floor.

[CFAN38]

I have been all over the place as to how I feel about Monroe as a Celtic.

On offense I think he would be a home run. Though he hasn't shot from mid range alot in the NBA I think this is an area of his game that can be developed. He is still only 24 and shot 75% from FT line. With this added range is is an allstar level offensive player and rebounder. His skill set paired with Sully would give the Cs a very dynamic tough to defend big man pairing.

On defense we all no his limitations. He doesn't black shots but lacks the lateral quickness to effectively defend the perimeter. Monroe with KO or Sully would be a potential disaster against any team with dynamic athletic bigs.

I ultimetly think if he wants to join the Cs DA 100% signs him to a max deal. However this will have to set the wheels of major change in motion. KO and Sully will need to be moved. Zeller then becomes the 3rd big and a perfect fit at this position. He stretches the D enough to play along side Monroe for spot minutes while serving as the backup 5. The short term fit as a starting 4 maybe to resign Bass. He will stretch the D and has the needed mobility defensively.

[heyvik]

I would love to see the Celtics with Monroe AND DeAndre Jordan. Minus KO, keep Sully and add a legit SF....

[LilRip]

I think Greg Monroe would be a brilliant signing. All this team has right now is perimeter D and heart. Other than that, I think there are still so many holes that need plugging up. I don't mind that Monroe is not a defensive stalwart. He's an offensive threat. We need talent on offense as well as on defense.

[arctic 3.0]

I've been on the big moose band wagon for a while. Think he addresses several of the teams needs ( go to scoring, size and beef in the middle) he also compliments the team identity as a willing passer and ability to run in the break.

A realistic and successful offseason of  signing him and drafting portis (good wing defender at the 4, shot blocker, jump shooter) would put us in good shape at the 4&5.

Then use sully or Oly plus a pick and filler to tempt Orlando or Milwaukee  to s&t Harris or Middleton and we're good for 5-7 more wins.
Smart, IT
Bradley, Turner
Harris, Crowder
Oly, Portis
Monroe, Zeller
Bring young along slowly, resign Jerebko as 5th big
And boom!

[Granath]

Ugh, no way, Monroe is likely a max guy this summer, we need a rim protector.

I would hate to waste cap space, especially Max cap space on a guy whose NBA ceiling is a poor mans Al Jefferson.

Poor man's Al Jefferson? 

Monroe is only 25 years old and is already better than Jefferson in almost every regard.  He's a more efficient scorer, he's a better rebounder, he's a better passer and he's a far better defender. 

You're thinking of the Al Jefferson now. At his peak Al Jeff was a 23/11 player who was a more effective defender than he got credit for. Jefferson was clearly a better player at 24 than Monroe is. But once he had his knee injury he was never the same player again.

[alewilliam789]

I think looking at these stats there are probably two things that jump out at me the most:

1) Monroe doesn't seem to do much from outside - either he's not comfortable out there, the Pistons just choose not to use him that way, but 92% of all Monroe's his Field Goal Attempts come from within 10 feet of the basket.

2) Monroe is definitely seems to be better suited to the center spot, rather than PF.  His PER is essentially identical to his opponent's PER when he's playing at the PF spot, but he pretty much dominates his opponents (+6.9 PER) when he's at the center spot.

3) Passing is an underrated part of Monroe's game.  He produces an additional 5.5 Points Per 36  for his team as a result of assists - that's in addition to the 18.5 Points Per 36 that he scores himself.  That means that in total he generates a total of about 24 points for his team Per 36.

Even without a rim protector, I think adding Monroe at the center spot could really improve this team, simply because of the way he outplays his opponents at the center spot.  However he's also a guy with a very specific set of skills (post scoring, passing, rebounding) so if you wanted to build a really devastating front court you'd probably need to start him at Center and then add a relatively athletic rim protector at the PF spot - and one who can also hit the outside jumper with some consistency.   

A Serge Ibaka + Greg Monroe front court would be absolute perfection, but probably a long shot.

Is there anyone at PF that we might have a shot at, who might be able to slip in to this PF role? Aside from Kevin Garnett that is haha
 

I completely agree with you about Monroe. He would be a great fit at C because of his skillset that he brings. He may not shoot many mid range jumpers, but he isn't bad at it either. With this draft there are some players that could have that same type of impact as floor spacer and rim protector. Myles Turner and Kristaps Porzingis come to mind and they are both within our range that would could probably trade up for.

PG: Smart
SG: Bradley
SF: Turner
PF: Myles Turner
C: Greg Monroe

[arctic 3.0]

I've been on the big moose band wagon for a while. Think he addresses several of the teams needs ( go to scoring, size and beef in the middle) he also compliments the team identity as a willing passer and ability to run in the break.

A realistic and successful offseason could consist of signing him and drafting portis would put us in good shape at the 4&5.


Then use sully or Oly plus a pick and filler to tempt Orlando or Milwaukee  to s&t Harris or Middleton and we're good for 5-7 more wins.
Smart, IT
Bradley, Turner
Harris, Crowder
Oly, Portis
Monroe, Zeller
Bring young along slowly, resign Jerebko as 5th big
And boom!

Portis brings a lot to the table.
An athletic big with an outside game, capable of defending the perimeter and blocking shots.
He also never stops competing and brings a a bit of nasty.

[CelticGuardian]

I've been on the big moose band wagon for a while. Think he addresses several of the teams needs ( go to scoring, size and beef in the middle) he also compliments the team identity as a willing passer and ability to run in the break.

A realistic and successful offseason of  signing him and drafting portis (good wing defender at the 4, shot blocker, jump shooter) would put us in good shape at the 4&5.

Then use sully or Oly plus a pick and filler to tempt Orlando or Milwaukee  to s&t Harris or Middleton and we're good for 5-7 more wins.
Smart, IT
Bradley, Turner
Harris, Crowder
Oly, Portis
Monroe, Zeller
Bring young along slowly, resign Jerebko as 5th big
And boom!

You're insane. It what realm of existence does a team trade their leading scorer for big men that can't defend.

[arctic 3.0]

I've been on the big moose band wagon for a while. Think he addresses several of the teams needs ( go to scoring, size and beef in the middle) he also compliments the team identity as a willing passer and ability to run in the break.

A realistic and successful offseason of  signing him and drafting portis (good wing defender at the 4, shot blocker, jump shooter) would put us in good shape at the 4&5.

Then use sully or Oly plus a pick and filler to tempt Orlando or Milwaukee  to s&t Harris or Middleton and we're good for 5-7 more wins.
Smart, IT
Bradley, Turner
Harris, Crowder
Oly, Portis
Monroe, Zeller
Bring young along slowly, resign Jerebko as 5th big
And boom!

You're insane. It what realm of existence does a team trade their leading scorer for big men that can't defend.

Harris is going to get paid, big time.
Orlando can match and get hamstrung, let him go for nothing or exercise a s&t and get something in return. Sully and a pick is good return when facing loosing the guy for nothing.

[crimson_stallion]

What I also noticed is that this D is not at the level this team needs from a center.  Neither KO nor Sully provide a defensive matchup to cover for Monroe if we brought him here.

Did you see his Defensive Real Plus-Minus stat of +2.30?

This actually ranks him top 12 among all NBA Power Fowards and indicates that the Pistons are +2.3 points better when he is on he court compared to when he's off the court. 

The top ranked PF was Anthony Davis at around +4

I was pretty surprised (and intrigued) by that stat.  That's what had me making the David West comparison, as West is not super athletic and not much of a shot blocker, but is typically still considered a pretty good defender.

[jambr380]

It's been said a million times, but with the salary cap increasing so much next year and with Monroe's max being less than a veteran player's max, it would be absolutely ludicrous not to sign him if he wanted to come here. Unless it's a total train wreck (in the mold of Josh Smith in Det), at the very least he would be a free asset to trade away if he didn't quite work out.

You take a player like Monroe and run with it - especially this offseason (compared to next).

[JBcat]

With Detriot getting rid of Josh Smith during the season I see no reason why they wouldn't match any offer, right?  Or least execute a sign and trade.

[fantankerous]

With Detriot getting rid of Josh Smith during the season I see no reason why they wouldn't match any offer, right?  Or least execute a sign and trade.

Monroe is unrestricted.

[moiso]

What I also noticed is that this D is not at the level this team needs from a center.  Neither KO nor Sully provide a defensive matchup to cover for Monroe if we brought him here.

Did you see his Defensive Real Plus-Minus stat of +2.30?

This actually ranks him top 12 among all NBA Power Fowards and indicates that the Pistons are +2.3 points better when he is on he court compared to when he's off the court. 

The top ranked PF was Anthony Davis at around +4

I was pretty surprised (and intrigued) by that stat.  That's what had me making the David West comparison, as West is not super athletic and not much of a shot blocker, but is typically still considered a pretty good defender.

Yeah, there were some Stan Van Gundy quotes a week or so ago about how he thinks Monroe is a good defender because he is always in the right spot and rarely makes mistakes.