Ainge tweet on FA

[greece66]

"I don't think we've ever had cap space in the history of the Celtics, at least since I've been here. We need to spend it wisely."
Source:https://twitter.com/celtics/status/593778982375555072

IMHO the stress is on wisely 

[Lucky17]

"I don't think we've ever had cap space in the history of the Celtics, at least since I've been here. We need to spend it wisely."
Source:https://twitter.com/celtics/status/593778982375555072

IMHO the stress is on wisely 

True, but the colored part is important for the "When was the last time the Celtics landed a free agent?" rabble.

[KeepRondo]

We can forget about Middleton for 14 mil a year then.

[Tr1boy]

We can forget about Middleton for 14 mil a year then.

why not??

Bucks might not want to match bc then they cant sign Giannis nor Parker (plus henson, MCW etc.)

[droopdog7]

I've said this many times before, so won't hurt to say it again.  The worst thing you could do when building a team is overpay for guys.  So say hell no to maxing restricted free agents just to challenge the current team to match.  So that mean no to guys like draymond green, denadre jordan, and even jimmy butler.  Doing that will hamstring the organization moving forward.

[Donoghus]

Just don't sign an over the hill Dominique Wilkins again.

[KeepRondo]

I've said this many times before, so won't hurt to say it again.  The worst thing you could do when building a team is overpay for guys.  So say hell no to maxing restricted free agents just to challenge the current team to match.  So that mean no to guys like draymond green, denadre jordan, and even jimmy butler.  Doing that will hamstring the organization moving forward.

I get that idea for players like Middleton, Harris and Monroe but Deandre Jordan and Jimmy Butler? These are both easy max deal players.

[greece66]

Since we are on the topic, here's Tanguay's opinion on how we should C's money: Aldridge.
Tbh, it does not look like T. has inside information: just giving voice to his personal wishes, ie not to be taken more seriously than anything else written in this forum.
Still, he makes a good case:
//So why would Aldridge want to leave Portland for Boston? First of all, it's not like the climate is worse here; rain or snow both suck. Second, players want to play for a guy like Stevens. Third, and most important, Aldridge is never getting to the NBA Finals if he stays with the Blazers. The Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, Rockets, Grizzlies and Warriors are blocking Portland's path in the West. In the East, if you put Aldridge on the Celtics and make a couple of other solid moves, well, they're a bad LeBron series from the Finals. Hey, if Aldridge had been on this year's Celtics team, the series could have gone seven.//
Full source http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/brad-stevens-is-the-boston-celtics-bait-for-stars-like-lamarcus-aldridge

[droopdog7]

I've said this many times before, so won't hurt to say it again.  The worst thing you could do when building a team is overpay for guys.  So say hell no to maxing restricted free agents just to challenge the current team to match.  So that mean no to guys like draymond green, denadre jordan, and even jimmy butler.  Doing that will hamstring the organization moving forward.

I get that idea for players like Middleton, Harris and Monroe but Deandre Jordan and Jimmy Butler? These are both easy max deal players.

They might be max players given the current landscape of the league (in that, someone one will pay them the max).  But are they worth it?  Are they stars that are going to carry, at least in part, a franchise?  Not even close.

And paying guys a max salary to guys that cannot produce at that is a recipe for bad cap management IMO because they will inhibit your ability to build.  Nevermind what may happen once they are removed from the current, much better situation.  Worst-case scenario is they completely bomb.  Then you're really stuck.

[Lucky17]

Since we are on the topic, here's Tanguay's opinion on how we should C's money: Aldridge.
Tbh, it does not look like T. has inside information: just giving voice to his personal wishes, ie not to be taken more seriously than anything else written in this forum.
Still, he makes a good case:
//So why would Aldridge want to leave Portland for Boston? First of all, it's not like the climate is worse here; rain or snow both suck. Second, players want to play for a guy like Stevens. Third, and most important, Aldridge is never getting to the NBA Finals if he stays with the Blazers. The Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, Rockets, Grizzlies and Warriors are blocking Portland's path in the West. In the East, if you put Aldridge on the Celtics and make a couple of other solid moves, well, they're a bad LeBron series from the Finals. Hey, if Aldridge had been on this year's Celtics team, the series could have gone seven.//
Full source http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/brad-stevens-is-the-boston-celtics-bait-for-stars-like-lamarcus-aldridge

That's so very Tanguay.

First, as a native New Englander now living in Portland, I can definitively say that the climate here is SO much better. You don't have to shovel rain to get out of your driveway in December. Or March, for that matter.

Second, while that may be, it's not like the rest of the head coaches in the NBA are all trolls.

Third, what's to stop Aldridge from signing with one of those Western teams (if you can't beat them, join them)?

[Rosco917]

I've said this many times before, so won't hurt to say it again.  The worst thing you could do when building a team is overpay for guys.  So say hell no to maxing restricted free agents just to challenge the current team to match.  So that mean no to guys like draymond green, denadre jordan, and even jimmy butler.  Doing that will hamstring the organization moving forward.

You're right...but what may be an overpay for one team my be a good fit for another, (with in reason.) The key for a good GM is to be accurate on the evaluation of his present team, and being accurate to what it needs to move forward.

I hear many with a desire for a star, any star will do. With no consideration to what this star will do for the team. A good GM will evaluate player character, attitude, ability, age, and effect on team chemistry.

I have faith in Danny and Brad that they will do what is right for this team, they know what we need.

[celticsclay]

Since we are on the topic, here's Tanguay's opinion on how we should C's money: Aldridge.
Tbh, it does not look like T. has inside information: just giving voice to his personal wishes, ie not to be taken more seriously than anything else written in this forum.
Still, he makes a good case:
//So why would Aldridge want to leave Portland for Boston? First of all, it's not like the climate is worse here; rain or snow both suck. Second, players want to play for a guy like Stevens. Third, and most important, Aldridge is never getting to the NBA Finals if he stays with the Blazers. The Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, Rockets, Grizzlies and Warriors are blocking Portland's path in the West. In the East, if you put Aldridge on the Celtics and make a couple of other solid moves, well, they're a bad LeBron series from the Finals. Hey, if Aldridge had been on this year's Celtics team, the series could have gone seven.//
Full source http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/brad-stevens-is-the-boston-celtics-bait-for-stars-like-lamarcus-aldridge

That's so very Tanguay.

First, as a native New Englander now living in Portland, I can definitively say that the climate here is SO much better. You don't have to shovel rain to get out of your driveway in December. Or March, for that matter.

Second, while that may be, it's not like the rest of the head coaches in the NBA are all trolls.

Third, what's to stop Aldridge from signing with one of those Western teams (if you can't beat them, join them)?

I agree that there really isn't a realistic argument anyone can make for Aldridge signing here. We are not close to his home (Texas), there are many teams closer to contending then us in the East and we don't really have a player that would be great at getting him the ball (a pass-first point guard) or really great shooters to open up the post for him.

However, a larger more general topic that I do think is worth discussing is whether some players from the West may in general choose to come east for a perceived easier path to the final. Look at the Spurs Clippers series right now. One of those teams is going home in two games. If they were in the east their first round matchup would be against the Nets, Celtics or Bucks instead of each other. In the second round you are looking at teams like the Wizards, Bulls and Hawks. In the ECF those teams would be favored against Cleveland.

Why would a Gasol or Aldridge not consider signing with a mid tier team in the east and feel like they have a 50% chance of reaching the finals?

[Lucky17]

The East has been comparatively weaker than the West for a while now.

Has that been reflected in free agency signings the past few years? Asking legitimately.

[GreenWarrior]

Just don't sign an over the hill Dominique Wilkins again.

that regime had no idea what they were doing.

[KeepRondo]

I've said this many times before, so won't hurt to say it again.  The worst thing you could do when building a team is overpay for guys.  So say hell no to maxing restricted free agents just to challenge the current team to match.  So that mean no to guys like draymond green, denadre jordan, and even jimmy butler.  Doing that will hamstring the organization moving forward.

I get that idea for players like Middleton, Harris and Monroe but Deandre Jordan and Jimmy Butler? These are both easy max deal players.

They might be max players given the current landscape of the league (in that, someone one will pay them the max).  But are they worth it?  Are they stars that are going to carry, at least in part, a franchise?  Not even close.

And paying guys a max salary to guys that cannot produce at that is a recipe for bad cap management IMO because they will inhibit your ability to build.  Nevermind what may happen once they are removed from the current, much better situation.  Worst-case scenario is they completely bomb.  Then you're really stuck.

I get your logic but we need to land a top player and both these guys are all stars.

And we have enough draft picks to either land another or cash them in as part of a trade for another star. I think, considering our position, that it would be foolish not to get Deandre or Jimmy Butler.

That is if either became available.