Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer

[Evantime34]

No one is yelling at me or calling me dumb. Where are the real CB posters...?

Not gonna yell or call you dumb, but getting Cousins and Butler this off-season is more than a pipe dream. 

It's a "riding a dragonicorn (that's a unicorn dragon hybrid) through a field of sunflowers playing electric guitars while Celine Dion signs the Titanic theme with words changed so it's all about how awesome you are" dream.

TP!

It is crazy that the expression pipe dream persists even though it is a reference to smoking opium.

The dream you describe sounds more like an acid trip than a pipe dream.

Anyway, I personally never had any idea the KG deal would happen, so I would never put it past Ainge to make a move that shocked me in a positive way.

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Danny says he needs scorers, and just a rim protector won't help much. He does need scorers, but does the denial mean that the defensive center everyone thinks he needs is still his top priority?

[PhoSita]

Danny says he needs scorers, and just a rim protector won't help much. He does need scorers, but does the denial mean that the defensive center everyone thinks he needs is still his top priority?

I think what Danny recognizes is that this team has enough role players.  The only way to change the team's place in the league hierarchy will be to replace some of the role players with guys who are, or who could be, more than that.

Simply adding another role player who fills a team need might improve the team, but it won't substantially change where the team is at in the rebuild, and I think that's Ainge's biggest concern right now.


p.s. I love the Internet; if you can think of it, there's probably a picture of it somewhere.

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Danny says he needs scorers, and just a rim protector won't help much. He does need scorers, but does the denial mean that the defensive center everyone thinks he needs is still his top priority?

I think what Danny recognizes is that this team has enough role players.  The only way to change the team's place in the league hierarchy will be to replace some of the role players with guys who are, or who could be, more than that.

Simply adding another role player who fills a team need might improve the team, but it won't substantially change where the team is at in the rebuild, and I think that's Ainge's biggest concern right now.


p.s. I love the Internet; if you can think of it, there's probably a picture of it somewhere.

Yeah, he definitely knows he needs some star talents.

[Tr1boy]

Danny says he needs scorers, and just a rim protector won't help much. He does need scorers, but does the denial mean that the defensive center everyone thinks he needs is still his top priority?

I think what Danny recognizes is that this team has enough role players.  The only way to change the team's place in the league hierarchy will be to replace some of the role players with guys who are, or who could be, more than that.

Simply adding another role player who fills a team need might improve the team, but it won't substantially change where the team is at in the rebuild, and I think that's Ainge's biggest concern right now.


p.s. I love the Internet; if you can think of it, there's probably a picture of it somewhere.

we will see if your theory is true , and see what happens with the Hawks

Heck the Spurs have already shown your theory is not 100 percent true

Before you say, well they have duncan , parker, gino . These guys are considered old now, especially duncan.   He is still starting material but not a guy that can carry a team on his back at this pt of his career.

[Celtics4ever]

if you can think of it, there's probably a picture of it somewhere.

TP was funny

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Some things I got from the press conference

1.  The UFA (Bass, Jerebko) will ride on the backseat for now until the draft is over. And even after you have to negotiate a mutual satisfying deal , not to mention consider outside FAs to bring in.  Imo both Bass and Jerebko are not coming back next season.  Maybe Jerebko, no Bass

2. Crowder will be made an offer (no surprise). Surprised nobody asked about his leg injury situation. If he will need surgery

3. If there was no international ball, KO would be back for a third summer league stint.   KO really needs to keep working on his body.  Become a better defender without fouling. Believe in his game. Don't be scared to miss

4. Sullinger will be given all the tools to comeback at top shape (15-20 pounds of fat loss , I imagine , without sacrificing much strength. Up to Sullinger ultimately)

That Danny wants to play golf with Jerebko this summer means he wants to have him teed up (har har) for FA.

KO's gonna be the man for Canada at the 5 spot, and he'll have a great time down in Rio for the Olympics next summer.

I wish KO would spend some time at a good big-man camp this summer, but I don't know that he'll fit that in.

As to Crowder, A. Sharrod asked and was told none of the players are expected to need surgery this summer.

And 15-20 pounds of fat loss isn't enough to term Sully as in "top shape".

Oh, and I thought it was interesting that they may not take Phil to summer league primarily to assure that Smart gets plenty of time playing point.

[Tr1boy]

Some things I got from the press conference

1.  The UFA (Bass, Jerebko) will ride on the backseat for now until the draft is over. And even after you have to negotiate a mutual satisfying deal , not to mention consider outside FAs to bring in.  Imo both Bass and Jerebko are not coming back next season.  Maybe Jerebko, no Bass

2. Crowder will be made an offer (no surprise). Surprised nobody asked about his leg injury situation. If he will need surgery

3. If there was no international ball, KO would be back for a third summer league stint.   KO really needs to keep working on his body.  Become a better defender without fouling. Believe in his game. Don't be scared to miss

4. Sullinger will be given all the tools to comeback at top shape (15-20 pounds of fat loss , I imagine , without sacrificing much strength. Up to Sullinger ultimately)

KO's gonna be the man for Canada at the 5 spot, and he'll have a great time down in Rio for the Olympics next summer.

I wish he'd spend some time at a good big-man camp this summer, but I don't know that he'll fit that in.

And 15-20 pounds of fat loss isn't enough to term Sully as in "top shape".

Well it's a start.  You can't lose that much weight in a span of 3-4 months without becoming unhealthy.  He loses 15-20 and keeps up his fitness throughout the year and he might be down 20 pounds by early next season. It will help. And maybe could be enough.

I think I was reading he was around 280 when he cameback (and I believe it, since his face looked slimmer,  and looked more mobile on the court).  260 could be a nice weight where he is more agile, mobile, has more stamina but is not sacrificing his strength

[greece66]

@triboy16f
TP good post
What I found interesting is that Ainge (presumably) does not exclude the possibility of a scoring 4 or 5. Until now I thought we were looking for a 2 or a 3, but this makes things more interesting.

[PhoSita]

Before you say, well they have duncan , parker, gino . These guys are considered old now, especially duncan.   He is still starting material but not a guy that can carry a team on his back at this pt of his career.

I mean, you left out probably the most important name in their resurgence: Kawhi.

Also, sure, the guys you named aren't up for nightly heavy lifting anymore.  But they can also still bring the brilliance for stretches here and there during the regular season, and on a near-nightly basis in the post-season.

So sure, the Spurs are a bit of an exception, but then again, they really aren't.

[number_n9ne]

@triboy16f
TP good post
What I found interesting is that Ainge (presumably) does not exclude the possibility of a scoring 4 or 5. Until now I thought we were looking for a 2 or a 3, but this makes things more interesting.

I think he said preferably at the 3, but the roster can be upgraded talent wise at any position.

I'm paraphrasing though.

[clover]

Some things I got from the press conference

1.  The UFA (Bass, Jerebko) will ride on the backseat for now until the draft is over. And even after you have to negotiate a mutual satisfying deal , not to mention consider outside FAs to bring in.  Imo both Bass and Jerebko are not coming back next season.  Maybe Jerebko, no Bass

2. Crowder will be made an offer (no surprise). Surprised nobody asked about his leg injury situation. If he will need surgery

3. If there was no international ball, KO would be back for a third summer league stint.   KO really needs to keep working on his body.  Become a better defender without fouling. Believe in his game. Don't be scared to miss

4. Sullinger will be given all the tools to comeback at top shape (15-20 pounds of fat loss , I imagine , without sacrificing much strength. Up to Sullinger ultimately)

KO's gonna be the man for Canada at the 5 spot, and he'll have a great time down in Rio for the Olympics next summer.

I wish he'd spend some time at a good big-man camp this summer, but I don't know that he'll fit that in.

And 15-20 pounds of fat loss isn't enough to term Sully as in "top shape".

Well it's a start.  You can't lose that much weight in a span of 3-4 months without becoming unhealthy.  He loses 15-20 and keeps up his fitness throughout the year and he might be down 20 pounds by early next season. It will help. And maybe could be enough.

I think I was reading he was around 280 when he came back (and I believe it, since his face looked slimmer,  and looked more mobile on the court).  260 could be a nice weight where he is more agile, mobile, has more stamina but is not sacrificing his strength

He's got 5 months before training camp, and a guy that size could easily lose 2 pounds a week--which is what I think it would take to get him to 260 by then.

[Rosco917]

What we need, may come in the form of 2 or 3 players. We many not get everything in one player, in fact, I doubt we will.

I would say one of DA's hardest decisions is, do they attempt to move Sully, or pray he gets his conditioning under control. If Sully steps up and really improves his conditioning, the celtics can look at the Center, and Small Forward positions. That would make things much easier, rather than replacing the entire front line.

[Sixth Man]

No one is yelling at me or calling me dumb. Where are the real CB posters...?

Not gonna yell or call you dumb, but getting Cousins and Butler this off-season is more than a pipe dream. 

It's a "riding a dragonicorn (that's a unicorn dragon hybrid) through a field of sunflowers playing electric guitars while Celine Dion signs the Titanic theme with words changed so it's all about how awesome you are" dream.

TP!

It is crazy that the expression pipe dream persists even though it is a reference to smoking opium.

The dream you describe sounds more like an acid trip than a pipe dream.

Anyway, I personally never had any idea the KG deal would happen, so I would never put it past Ainge to make a move that shocked me in a positive way.

Ha, you've obviously not ever taken LSD !! 

[Sixth Man]

Danny says he needs scorers, and just a rim protector won't help much. He does need scorers, but does the denial mean that the defensive center everyone thinks he needs is still his top priority?

I think what Danny recognizes is that this team has enough role players.  The only way to change the team's place in the league hierarchy will be to replace some of the role players with guys who are, or who could be, more than that.

Simply adding another role player who fills a team need might improve the team, but it won't substantially change where the team is at in the rebuild, and I think that's Ainge's biggest concern right now.


p.s. I love the Internet; if you can think of it, there's probably a picture of it somewhere.

Can we draft this winged creature?  Looks like he's used to playing 'above the rim' and would be a terror not only on the boards, but also in filling a lane on the break and finishing hard at the hoop...