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A modest proposal
« on: April 30, 2015, 09:32:13 AM »

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This off season we have cap room, the rondo TE and some young talent to work with.
There are a number or FA out there and some potential trade targets.
However there are a lot of teams with cap room and some of the brightest lights will likely stay on there current team.
I propose the following moves. These won't bring us #18 but they improve the team and create assets that can be used to acquire the pieces we need to reach that goal.
1: Sign Greg Monroe at any number needed to bring him here. He has the strength to guard any 5 in the game, will be our leading rebounder and can be a go to option on offense. He's not a great defender but I'd say he's twice, maybe three times the defender of K Love.
2: sign K Middleton at $8 or $9 million per. An all around player who defends well, shoots the three at a high level and is a willing passer. An ideal fit in the system
3: trade for Henson. I'd be willing to part with either Bradley, sully, Zeller or Oly plus a late pick to get the young shot blocker. he provides the mobile weak side help We've been lacking.

The bucks may want sully to add some bulk in the paint.
If so we go into next season with:
Smart, IT
Bradley, Turner
Middleton, crowder
Oly, Henson
Monroe, Zeller

Resign Jerebko to augment the front court and bring young along slowly.
What's the verdict?

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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 09:56:15 AM »

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I see Middleton getting ~15 million I wouldn't be all that shocked I see him get more.

0% chance we get him for 8 mil.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 10:09:37 AM »

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Middleton will probably get a max contract.

Don't know if Greg Monroe is the defensive presence in the paint that this team currently needs, nice offensive game but can't stretch the floor and is close to being a defensive liability. Wouldn't wanna pay him the max, that's for sure.

Henson is a decent player. Problem with him and Monroe on the floor is again the lack of spacing.

Do love Middleton but he's getting PAID this summer mate.

I wouldn't mind rolling out this team but to go after Monroe I'd need to know we've got Middleton or an even higher tier free agent here like Butler or Aldridge.
I think Monroe's a third fiddle at best on a contender if I think about it you know?
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM »

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Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2015, 10:30:59 AM »

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You seem to think Bucks' mgt. are really stupid.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 10:42:20 AM »

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Quote from: oldutican on April 30, 2015, 10:30:59 AM
You seem to think Bucks' mgt. are really stupid.
Not stupid, just cash strapped. Why would they pay Middleton a max contract when
they have Parker coming back and plays the same position? plus gianis and  MCW to pay moving forward.
Maybe $9M is to low but I'd be knocked for 6 if anyone offers KM the max after a half season breakout. If he keeps it up he'll get the max in his next contract but it would be a real risky move at this point.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM »

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Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 11:44:19 AM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.

I was going to respond to his post with a simple "Good luck" LOL.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 11:49:58 AM »

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Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on April 30, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.

I was going to respond to his post with a simple "Good luck" LOL.

I think in the next 4-5 years you're going to see a lot more of them. Its the new thing, 6'10 guys who learn to block/contest shots, hit a J, and put the ball on the floor. Anthony Davis was the harbinger, not an anomaly.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 12:04:53 PM »

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Quote from: indeedproceed on April 30, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on April 30, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.

I was going to respond to his post with a simple "Good luck" LOL.

I think in the next 4-5 years you're going to see a lot more of them. Its the new thing, 6'10 guys who learn to block/contest shots, hit a J, and put the ball on the floor. Anthony Davis was the harbinger, not an anomaly.
The following players in this years draft have a chance to block shots and shoot 3's at the nba level once they develop (with varying degrees of likelihood): Towns, Turner, Portis, Lyles, Looney, Wood.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 12:10:41 PM »

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Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: indeedproceed on April 30, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on April 30, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.

I was going to respond to his post with a simple "Good luck" LOL.

I think in the next 4-5 years you're going to see a lot more of them. Its the new thing, 6'10 guys who learn to block/contest shots, hit a J, and put the ball on the floor. Anthony Davis was the harbinger, not an anomaly.
The following players in this years draft have a chance to block shots and shoot 3's at the nba level once they develop (with varying degrees of likelihood): Towns, WCS, Turner, Portis, Lyles, Looney, Wood.

Wood especially looks like a high risk high reward type prospect.
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2015, 12:45:08 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.
I think you mean a rare "Mchale"
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 12:48:36 PM »

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Quote from: slamtheking on April 30, 2015, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.
I think you mean a rare "Mchale"


Nice.

I think "shotblocking 4 with range"  is a role we're bound to see more and more as time goes on, because there's such a need for it.  Having a power forward who can defend the paint a bit while also stretching the floor allows you to play these big, offensively gifted centers who can score at will in the paint but who struggle as the focal point of the defense. 

It makes building a strong offense much easier because you don't have to carry an unskilled defensive center who has zero range and can only score on open dunks and put-backs.

Ironically, I just described the Celtics' starting center when they had perhaps the best "shotblocking 4 with range" the league has ever seen. 
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2015, 01:10:11 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on April 30, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Evantime34 on April 30, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Monroe wouldn't be a bad addition, but for him to maximize his potential he would be best paired with a 4 that can block shots and space the floor on offense. If we can add shooting around him so that he is surrounded by 3 point shooters it could work well enough offensively to cover up for the defensive problems.

We probably won't be able to afford both he and Middleton, and I would rather have Middleton because a long 3 point shooter fits in better with the style that was the most successful for the C's this year. I really hope it doesn't take the max to sign him.

Outside of Serge Ibaka, I can't think of another shotblocking PF with range. It's a rare bird.

Yep,
This is why I put Oly in the starting lineup and why I suggested going after Henson.
Oly stretches the floor and created space for Monroe to work inside.

When Henson is in the game you move Monroe to the high post where he has proved to be quite capable. He is an excellent passer and shoots reliably from 15'-17'. This allows Henson to play in his comfort zone. (Both are still young, no reason they can't both continue to improve in areas that would increase their compatibility)

Zeller can also play out the high post and if we resign Jerebko we'll have a nicely balanced front court.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2015, 01:14:03 PM »

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Quote from: arctic 3.0 on April 30, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
Monroe ... shoots reliably from 15'-17'.

This is actually not true, and it's perhaps the biggest hole in his game.

He's a career 34% shooter from 10-16 feet, 36% from 3-10, and 31% from 16 feet to the 3 point line.
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