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What do you think of Young?

He's already a bust. He's only good in the D-League.Trade him immediately!
3 (3%)
Keep him for at least 2-3 years and see.
62 (61.4%)
I think he is gonna be a great player for the Cs.
17 (16.8%)
Not sure.
13 (12.9%)
James Who?
6 (5.9%)

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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2015, 10:54:35 PM »

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I'll be realistic about James Young. James Young is 19. He played limited minutes this season being shuttled back and forth from the D-League.

Nothing I've seen has given me any conclusive evidence as to whether James Young will actually be good or not. I will need to see at least one more season of him playing consistent NBA basketball before I can draw even a preliminary conclusion.

I'll be realistic about James Young. I know nothing about James Young.


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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2015, 01:05:05 AM »

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One thing that I love about James Young is that he has the "it" factor as we saw him during the NCAA tournament where he was the go-to guy and leading scorer of Kentucky which had a very deep roster.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dlARGQ1yrW0

Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2015, 03:50:01 AM »

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I'm just saying that I've watched almost everyone of his D-League games and he really isn't displaying as much promise as you guys paint him out to have even as a young player. Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year. You can tell stars are stars very soon in their career unless they are a rookie on the bench of a playoff team. Young couldn't get minutes in a majority of the year before we became a playoff team after trading everybody and lost his spot in the rotation to Luigi Datome. As much as I appreciate Datome he is an average NBA player. I haven't lost all hope on Young, but I just don't see his fit with the Celtics because he isn't a 3 and we have a logjam at the 2. Bradley is believed to be the 2 guard of the future, so where does Young go?

Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2015, 07:51:06 AM »

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I'm just saying that I've watched almost everyone of his D-League games and he really isn't displaying as much promise as you guys paint him out to have even as a young player. Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year. You can tell stars are stars very soon in their career unless they are a rookie on the bench of a playoff team. Young couldn't get minutes in a majority of the year before we became a playoff team after trading everybody and lost his spot in the rotation to Luigi Datome. As much as I appreciate Datome he is an average NBA player. I haven't lost all hope on Young, but I just don't see his fit with the Celtics because he isn't a 3 and we have a logjam at the 2. Bradley is believed to be the 2 guard of the future, so where does Young go?
Please no personal offense intended. Just my honest reaction when I read the bolded section. (I wanted a really good milk shake)

[EDITED]- Posting something like that violates forum rules
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2015, 08:22:37 AM »

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I'm just saying that I've watched almost everyone of his D-League games and he really isn't displaying as much promise as you guys paint him out to have even as a young player. Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year. You can tell stars are stars very soon in their career unless they are a rookie on the bench of a playoff team. Young couldn't get minutes in a majority of the year before we became a playoff team after trading everybody and lost his spot in the rotation to Luigi Datome. As much as I appreciate Datome he is an average NBA player. I haven't lost all hope on Young, but I just don't see his fit with the Celtics because he isn't a 3 and we have a logjam at the 2. Bradley is believed to be the 2 guard of the future, so where does Young go?
Please no personal offense intended. Just my honest reaction when I read the bolded section. (I wanted a really good milk shake)
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TP that's great stuff lol.

Anyway I agree with you this is absurd to think you can really think you know how a young player is going to develop. If this was the case there would never a be a draft bust. Some players work harder than others, some have natural gifts that allow them to succeed easier than others. Some people on here think players never get better it's amazing to me. ::)
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2015, 08:26:25 AM »

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I'm just saying that I've watched almost everyone of his D-League games and he really isn't displaying as much promise as you guys paint him out to have even as a young player. Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year. You can tell stars are stars very soon in their career unless they are a rookie on the bench of a playoff team. Young couldn't get minutes in a majority of the year before we became a playoff team after trading everybody and lost his spot in the rotation to Luigi Datome. As much as I appreciate Datome he is an average NBA player. I haven't lost all hope on Young, but I just don't see his fit with the Celtics because he isn't a 3 and we have a logjam at the 2. Bradley is believed to be the 2 guard of the future, so where does Young go?

I haven't seen the press release that Avery is believed to be our sg of the future. Care to reference that statement with a link?
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2015, 08:41:28 AM »

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I'm just saying that I've watched almost everyone of his D-League games and he really isn't displaying as much promise as you guys paint him out to have even as a young player. Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year. You can tell stars are stars very soon in their career unless they are a rookie on the bench of a playoff team. Young couldn't get minutes in a majority of the year before we became a playoff team after trading everybody and lost his spot in the rotation to Luigi Datome. As much as I appreciate Datome he is an average NBA player. I haven't lost all hope on Young, but I just don't see his fit with the Celtics because he isn't a 3 and we have a logjam at the 2. Bradley is believed to be the 2 guard of the future, so where does Young go?
Please no personal offense intended. Just my honest reaction when I read the bolded section. (I wanted a really good milk shake)
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2015, 08:49:41 AM »

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Let's be realistic about James Young--he's still young. 19 years old. He needs time to develop.

I don't think he'll be a bust, because he already has one valuable skill: a sweet shooting stroke. He's athletic, too. Stevens can definitely use that in his system.

Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2015, 09:07:30 AM »

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Makes me long for the days when players stayed in college or overseas when they needed to develop instead of taking up a roster spot.

Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2015, 09:08:44 AM »

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Makes me long for the days when players stayed in college or overseas when they needed to develop instead of taking up a roster spot.

Around here we call them the Kevin Wares.
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2015, 09:27:01 AM »

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How many players look totally awful and raw as a rookie, that can't even make a NBA roster, end up as any sort of real player in the league.  I honestly can't think of one.
Gerald Green, Avery Bradley, Shabazz Muhammed, Jimmy Butler, Chauncey Billups, Tyson Chandler, Monta Ellis, Dennis Schroeder, Solomon Hill, Rudy Gobert, Donatas Moteijunas, Draymond Green, Paul George, Eric Bledsoe, Hassan Whiteside, Jeff Teague, DeMarre Carroll, Patrick Beverly, Kyle Lowry....
almost none of those guys are anywhere near the same as Young.  Most spent almost all their time in the actual NBA as a rookie, and most performed far better than Young has at the D-League level at the actual NBA level
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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2015, 09:50:46 AM »

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If he's a part of a deal that brings in an already established talent, I won't be too upset.

But to call him a bust after one season is way too early.  I agree that he wasn't that impressive to watch while out there, and while he was the leading scorer for Kentucky the one year he was there, it wasn't a "powerhouse Kentucky team", heck they lost in the first round of the NIT.

I vote to give him one more year, see if he can play well enough to crack the rotation and be a legit part of it.  But if next season is more of the same like this past season, then I think it's time to move on.

Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2015, 09:54:16 AM »

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Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year.

Draymond Green as a 22 year old rookie averaged 13.4 minutes a game.  His per 36 stats are...

7.7 pts, 8.8 rebs, 1.8 assists, 1.4 steals, 37% from 2, 21% from 3.

James Young as a 19 year old rookie averaged 10.7 minutes a game.  His per 36 stats are...

11.4 pts, 4.6 rebs, 1.4 assists, .9 steals, 52% from 2, 25% from 3.

After his third year in the league, Draymond Green is now looking at getting a near-max contract.

Everyone can have opinions, but it would be nice if they spent 5 FREAKIN' MINUTES doing a little research to see if their opinions have any basis in reality.

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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2015, 10:03:20 AM »

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Contrary to what people think about young players developing, you can get a good idea of how the player will develop in their rookie year.

Everyone can have opinions, but it would be nice if they spent 5 FREAKIN' MINUTES doing a little research to see if their opinions have any basis in reality.

Mike

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Re: Let's be realistic about James Young
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2015, 10:05:25 AM »

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Everyone can have opinions, but it would be nice if they spent 5 FREAKIN' MINUTES doing a little research to see if their opinions have any basis in reality.


Show me some research that compares their defense as rookies.
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