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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2015, 05:07:05 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.
Good points.
If we re-sign Monroe, maybe we can just let the double handed headed (oops, apologies Brandon) dunk monster walk away. Also, we can trade Wallace for pick or two (although this would be a last resort scenario).
In any case, we now are at 40 mill cap is projected to 67, so with a few adjustments we should be manage.
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2015, 05:09:08 PM »

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DeAndre Jordan plus Kevin Love would be ideal.

I think ultimately the C's end up with Khris Middleton and that's it from your list.  They build through trades and the draft after landing Middleton.

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2015, 05:23:50 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   

Signing Love will cost you 20 mil in cap space.   Even if you stretch Wallace, you're only looking at maybe 7-10 mil in cap space, right?  Greg Monroe will cost you 15 mil.  I'd say that yes... making a run at multiple (quality) free agents would require dealing with Bradley and Thomas... unless you mean we'd only try to sign 1 star.   I can't see Kevin Love joining this crappy team as-is.  He'll need help.
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2015, 05:32:40 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2015, 05:34:23 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2015, 05:43:45 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.
One of them probably needs to be a guy coming off of his rookie contract, like Monroe, in order for us to try and get two big(ger) free agents, though I must say that I HATE the idea of a Love/Monroe pairing. Offensively, that could be an awesome pairing, but I don't think it really improves us defensively much.

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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2015, 05:48:05 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.
Yup. I see your point, my only reservation is that it is too risky. We play it all or nothing.
I'd rather go after *one* first rate FA this summer (which to keep it realistic, is already asking too much, with so many teams willing to offer max contracts) and a second rate one like Middleton.
And save some cap space for next year. I think we ll be better positioned to make a big move then.
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2015, 05:54:03 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.
Yup. I see your point, my only reservation is that it is too risky. We play it all or nothing.
I'd rather go after *one* first FA this summer (which to keep it realistic, is already asking too much, with so many teams willing to offer max contracts) and a second rate one like Middleton.
And save some cap space for next. I think we ll be better positioned to make a big move then.

I say get anyone you can this year.  Get that foundational player or two.   Guys like Bradley are replaceable.  Clear as much of the books this season, swing for the fences by landing a couple cornerstone players... and then when the cap jumps 20 mil, you'll be in good position to land a 3rd.    If we wait until 2016 when the cap jumps, Boston isn't just competing with the likes of the Lakers and Knicks... we're competing with pretty much every team.  Why would someone join a Celtic team where the best player is Avery Bradley when they can join a contender one piece away from a dynasty? 

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2015, 05:56:33 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.

Renounce all free agents.  Do a pure salary dump of Wallace and Turner, taking no contracts back.  Trade any remaining 2015 first round picks for future picks.  Cut Pressey and Babb before they become guaranteed.  That leaves 8 players under contract for around $27 million.  If you move someone like Zeller for no money in return, you can probably account for the cap hold for roster charges and sign two players at around $20 million each.

You could also do something like send out Wallace, Turner, Zeller/Olynyk/Sullinger, and picks as part of a sign-and-trade for a major free agent.  That might allow you to make moves without renouncing Jae Crowder and his small cap hold, then using his Bird rights to reward him.

Its doable without trading Bradley or Thomas.  It's not even difficult to sign two major free agents if you have a team willing to do a sign-and-trade.
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2015, 06:01:30 PM »

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@LooseCannon: why do a salary dump at  ET? He receives 3 mill and a half.

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2015, 06:04:11 PM »

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Per who DA's top targets are things are clearer:
//The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe. Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.//
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/03/report-celtics-top-free-agent-target-is-kevin-love-greg-monroe-no-2/

A 24 yo 6'11' double double monster like Monroe would make me super happy. (Should I add that Danny is right to prefer him to Jordan  ::) )
Bradley, Thomas and Wallace eat a lot into our cap.  Bringing back Bass and Crowder eats into it too.   Will be interesting to see if Ainge trades Bradley/Thomas on draft day for picks and cap space.... free up the books so he can make a run at multiple free agents.

You're understating how much cap room. You mention bringing Bass though, so by your estimation Ainge would prefer to clear space by trading Thomas and Bradley, who are both better and more useful players than Bass, than by simply letting Bass go? Doesn't make sense.

As for Crowder, it's really all about timing. He could eat negligible amount to plenty, depends if he signs an offer sheet or not.

Wallace can be easily stretched to cut down his salary impact plenty, if not out right traded with a 1st round pick if there are any takers.

Making a run at multiple free agents it's not dependent on letting go of Thomas, Bradley, etc.
We have 26 mil in cap space before adding Crowder, Jerebko, Bass, #16 and #28.   

So maybe enough to sign 1 max contract guy.   Stretching Wallace would add another 7 mil in cap space, but if the plan is to go after multiple stars, we might need to make some sacrifices.   Wouldn't signing Kevin Love alone cost us 20+ mil in cap space?
Yup, that's right, we only have ca 27 mill cap space and we almost certainly will resign Crowder.
Also, I do not think Danny would like to commit the whole of our cap space unless we become instant contenders and IM Humble O adding Love and Jordan will not make us contenders (the Clips had  better players around Deandre and they are unlikely to go through SAS).
The BIG Free Agency comes in the summer of 2016, so I'd save some ammunition for then  ;D

My point is that even if we stretch Wallace, we don't have enough money to sign both Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordon.   Not enough cap room.   After our draft picks (and Crowder at the very least), we're looking at like 20 mil in cap space.  Stretching Wallace pushes us to 27 mil.   Love eats up 20 mil.  You aren't signing DeAndre Jordan for 7 million dollars.

This can be resolved by trading Wallace + a pick to a team who will eat his salary and then trading Bradley for a draft pick.   Then maybe you have enough to go after two top tier free agents at once.

Renounce all free agents.  Do a pure salary dump of Wallace and Turner, taking no contracts back.  Trade any remaining 2015 first round picks for future picks.  Cut Pressey and Babb before they become guaranteed.  That leaves 8 players under contract for around $27 million.  If you move someone like Zeller for no money in return, you can probably account for the cap hold for roster charges and sign two players at around $20 million each.

You could also do something like send out Wallace, Turner, Zeller/Olynyk/Sullinger, and picks as part of a sign-and-trade for a major free agent.  That might allow you to make moves without renouncing Jae Crowder and his small cap hold, then using his Bird rights to reward him.

Its doable without trading Bradley or Thomas.  It's not even difficult to sign two major free agents if you have a team willing to do a sign-and-trade.
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I actually wouldn't be shocked to see us trade our 2015 1sts for future picks.   The draft picks will have more value before we use them.   We'll have an easier time trading 1st rounders than we will trading "unknown rookie bum 1" and "unknown rookie bum 2".   Kinda witnessed that a bit with Marcus Smart.  The #6 pick had more trade value than Marcus Smart has right now.

So trading out of this draft not only helps our cap situation (minimally), but gives us tradeable assets we can use throughout next season.

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2015, 06:24:21 PM »

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@LooseCannon: why do a salary dump at  ET? He receives 3 mill and a half.

Because you want $40 million in cap space and if you do everything else I suggested then you have $36.5 million in cap space.  You could salary dump Marcus Smart instead, but wouldn't you rather get rid of Turner?
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Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2015, 06:28:19 PM »

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@LooseCannon: why do a salary dump at  ET? He receives 3 mill and a half.

Because you want $40 million in cap space and if you do everything else I suggested then you have $36.5 million in cap space.  You could salary dump Marcus Smart instead, but wouldn't you rather get rid of Turner?
My point was rather that at 3.5 mill he is a bargain. I think we should only give him away for a good return, not just to free cap space.

Re: What Front Court Free Agent Pairing Would Be Ideal?
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2015, 06:39:10 PM »

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@LooseCannon: why do a salary dump at  ET? He receives 3 mill and a half.

Because you want $40 million in cap space and if you do everything else I suggested then you have $36.5 million in cap space.  You could salary dump Marcus Smart instead, but wouldn't you rather get rid of Turner?
My point was rather that at 3.5 mill he is a bargain. I think we should only give him away for a good return, not just to free cap space.

You're effectively trading away all the salaries you dump plus all the assets you use to get other teams to accept those contracts for the free agents you sign.  Using picks to dump Wallace and Turner is exactly the same as trading those picks with Wallace and Turner in a sign-and-trade.  I don't believe in freeing up cap space before you have a tentative deal with a free agent, but once you have someone who wants to sign with you, Turner is not a good enough player to be a deal-breaker.
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