Celtics Free Agent Plan for 2015 off season

[bcgenuis]

Let's look at what type of roster, team, Ainge and Stevens want to build.
 
Primary roles

5- Defensive
4- Stretch with an Inside Game - combine Sully and Olynyk
3- Creator and Scorer
2- 3+D
1- Facilitator and Scorer

Who on the roster fits these descriptions and who can we trade for or sign that fits this model.

5 - we do not have a defensive center on the roster
4 - we do not have a complete player on the roster
3 - Turner is a poor mans version of this description
2 - the D is there the 3 not so much
1 - IT can score (sometimes), but can he facilitate and hold up against other starters?

I don think you can build a team like its a color by numbers situation.

True and CBS looks at it as 2 Bigs, 2 Wings and 1 PG

2 Bigs 4 & 5:  One defensive and one Stretch with post up ability
2 wings 2 & 3: One 3+D and one creator/scorer
1 PG: facilitator/scorer

[bcgenuis]

Another idea if we whiff on the big fish like Love, Gasol and Aldridge is offer a max deal to someone like Brook Lopez, Enes Kanter or Greg Monroe and then include Turner and Isaiah Thomas in a deal for Lawson and Wilson Chandler.

Resign Crowder.

No max deals to B Lopez or E Kanter, that is poor use of cap space.

[Lucky17]

Another idea if we whiff on the big fish like Love, Gasol and Aldridge is offer a max deal to someone like Brook Lopez, Enes Kanter or Greg Monroe and then include Turner and Isaiah Thomas in a deal for Lawson and Wilson Chandler.

Resign Crowder.

I'd be absolutely terrified to offer Lopez a max deal. How many years?

Less afraid to offer Kanter or Monroe one, because they'd only be eligible for contracts up to 25% of the cap, or $17 mil. Coupled with their youth and potential (I don't think either have plateaued), that's a little easier to stomach for me (although I'd still be uncomfortable with it). You'd have to outbid the competition.

[Msimonetta2]

I'm having a hard time seeing Monroe with us, maybe it is me?  He is not a rim protector and does not seem to be a fit within steven's system. 

[Tr1boy]

Unless we throw silly money, we are not bringing in any big name FAs. Not even Brook Lopez. And Lopez would be really fit this group.

Danny can start throwing around money for the 2016 class. That is a big FA period

For next season if we can get Danny Green, Ed Davis for example on some decent contracts, I would be up for that.  Koufus also.

[LarBrd33]

Unless we throw silly money, we are not bringing in any big name FAs. Not even Brook Lopez. And Lopez would be really fit this group.

Danny can start throwing around money for the 2016 class. That is a big FA period

With the cap raising 20 mil in 2016, pretty much every team will have cap space.  You'll be competing with everyone and unless we have a star or two already in place, I have to imagine there will be plenty of teams more desirable. 

Here's hoping Ainge can land someone this summer.  We may need to renounce our trade exceptions and let guys like Crowder and Bass walk.

[HomerSapien]

Had another idea.

How desperate are the Kings to shed Jason Thompson's contract? I'd heard rumors they were keen on doing so in the days before last trade deadline.

Ainge could slot Thompson into the Prince TPE. Would adding the #16 pick be enough to pry the Kings' 1st rounder from them on Draft Night? If not, what else in his cupboard might Ainge need to add?

TP.  As I was reading through the thread I was thinking about this too, but you beat me too it.  I have no idea if that would be agreeable to the Kings, but it seems in the ballpark to me.  And if Justise Winslow or D'Angelo Russell somehow was still on the board at #6 that'd be a dream.

The Kings just strike me as a team that will be looking for a partner for a salary dump to sign a splashy free agent, or a facilitator in a 3-way deal to make a bigger deal work and I could envision them making a shortsighted decision to do either that we could hopefully be the beneficiary of.

[Msimonetta2]

Might have to add a sweetener to that Sacramento deal to get that #6, maybe one of our less desirable firsts? 

Also was realizing that we could sign and trade and still use our tpe's.  Probably will not happen but say d. Jordan wants out, we sign and trade and can continue adding pieces with our exceptions.

[Ilikesports17]

Had another idea.

How desperate are the Kings to shed Jason Thompson's contract? I'd heard rumors they were keen on doing so in the days before last trade deadline.

Ainge could slot Thompson into the Prince TPE. Would adding the #16 pick be enough to pry the Kings' 1st rounder from them on Draft Night? If not, what else in his cupboard might Ainge need to add?

TP.  As I was reading through the thread I was thinking about this too, but you beat me too it.  I have no idea if that would be agreeable to the Kings, but it seems in the ballpark to me.  And if Justise Winslow or D'Angelo Russell somehow was still on the board at #6 that'd be a dream.

The Kings just strike me as a team that will be looking for a partner for a salary dump to sign a splashy free agent, or a facilitator in a 3-way deal to make a bigger deal work and I could envision them making a shortsighted decision to do either that we could hopefully be the beneficiary of.

Thompson is way overpaid but hes not overpaid to the point where Sacremento is going to give up a top 6 pick for him. I think if we got #12 for AB, threw in Sully or KO and say 33 AND THEN we ate Thompsons salary. Then maybe. I mean hes contract is bad but its not David Lee bad.

[Lucky17]

Had another idea.

How desperate are the Kings to shed Jason Thompson's contract? I'd heard rumors they were keen on doing so in the days before last trade deadline.

Ainge could slot Thompson into the Prince TPE. Would adding the #16 pick be enough to pry the Kings' 1st rounder from them on Draft Night? If not, what else in his cupboard might Ainge need to add?

TP.  As I was reading through the thread I was thinking about this too, but you beat me too it.  I have no idea if that would be agreeable to the Kings, but it seems in the ballpark to me.  And if Justise Winslow or D'Angelo Russell somehow was still on the board at #6 that'd be a dream.

The Kings just strike me as a team that will be looking for a partner for a salary dump to sign a splashy free agent, or a facilitator in a 3-way deal to make a bigger deal work and I could envision them making a shortsighted decision to do either that we could hopefully be the beneficiary of.

Thompson is way overpaid but hes not overpaid to the point where Sacremento is going to give up a top 6 pick for him. I think if we got #12 for AB, threw in Sully or KO and say 33 AND THEN we ate Thompsons salary. Then maybe. I mean hes contract is bad but its not David Lee bad.

I agree, I think Sacto needs a little more. I don't think they'd pass up on Winslow or Russell.

But, if they should slip from #6 (someone moves up), and the consensus top-6 are off the board, I think they could be open to a move.

[Csfan1984]

Lets see
1. I'd let all current team FAs walk.
2. Use TPE on for helping another team. Acquire 2016 1st and an expiring contract for it.

Draft Portis or Tuner at 16, Harvey or Vezenkov at 28, D.Johnson or Upshaw at 33, Aaron White or Hammons at 45.

And called it a 2015 offseason.
Team wins 25 games but there is more youth development like T-Wolves.

Target 2016 draft such as Lab or Simmons as well as others. Then with $50 million to shop lure FAs with the idea two stars (KD/Leonard/Butler ufa. Davis/Drummond rfa?) And a young phenom coming together along with a great coach and solid role players.
Smart/IT
Harvey/AB
Max FA/Young
Simmons or Lab/Portis/KO
Max FA/D.Johnson

[FreddieJ]

Had another idea.

How desperate are the Kings to shed Jason Thompson's contract? I'd heard rumors they were keen on doing so in the days before last trade deadline.

Ainge could slot Thompson into the Prince TPE. Would adding the #16 pick be enough to pry the Kings' 1st rounder from them on Draft Night? If not, what else in his cupboard might Ainge need to add?

Not desperate. He is a solid player and will most likely be the Kings back up Center. Landry is the contract that they really don't need

[More Banners]

My guess is hat Danny goes with the Beautiful Mind strategy of going straight for the 2nd tier of scorers available, the sub-max players, and tries to land two of them, like Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Unless we throw silly money, we are not bringing in any big name FAs. Not even Brook Lopez. And Lopez would be really fit this group.

Danny can start throwing around money for the 2016 class. That is a big FA period

With the cap raising 20 mil in 2016, pretty much every team will have cap space.  You'll be competing with everyone and unless we have a star or two already in place, I have to imagine there will be plenty of teams more desirable. 

Here's hoping Ainge can land someone this summer.  We may need to renounce our trade exceptions and let guys like Crowder and Bass walk.

As I've mentioned a few times already, the chances of retaining Crowder are quite high if we work under the assumption that he'd be willing to agree to a deal with the Celtics but wait quite a bit before actually making the deal official.

Why? Because contrary to Bass and Jerebko, his cap hold is quite small, slightly above $1 million... very much doubt that's going to be the difference between signing a free agent or not.

Then besides that, the only way I can see him let go is if someone offers a ridiculous contract, and I'd be tempted to even match that because, as you mention, the cap is going to increase dramatically in the following years, so I'd be hard press not to overspend. And this is coming from someone who while I like how tough he plays, doesn't think that much of him as most around here. It really just depends if he goes after an offer sheet early in the process or not all told, that's the key.

But if there's mutual interest, I think Crowder stays around.

[Chris22]

Keep Crowder and see what else is available.

No good deals, then wait for the 2016 free agents when Wallace expires.

We have four picks in this years draft.