Kevin Love torn labrum; "highly unlikely" to return for playoffs

[BudweiserCeltic]

Kevin Love (shoulder) underwent surgery to repair his dislocated left shoulder on Wednesday afternoon, and he is expected to be sidelined for the next four to six months

Nba.com

Pretty much guarantees that he stays with the Cavs next year. Which also means Cleveland won't be players in next year's free-agency, which is good for us and our rebuild process.

[Sixth Man]

Kevin Love is a seriously weak-minded player.  Guys like him and Hibbert should be avoided at all costs. 

Sorry to hear that he has a torn labrum, but in truth, he plays with fire all the time, except this time, he got burned.  The King of the NBA armbar was simply hoisted by own petard.  He is himself a very dirty player on occasion, which is yet another reason why he is generally disrespected here and on NBA boards everywhere.  I hope he opts out and goes to the Lakers.  It would be quite amusing to see Kobe and his contingent rip KL to shreds after the latest Lakers roster experiment fails.

How is Hibbert a weak-minded player?  He has his faults, sure, but weak-minded?  If you're talking about his atrocious performance in the 2014 playoffs, I think that that was largely to do with rumors of PG sleeping with his girlfriend, iirc, as well as all of the other turmoil on that team.  I mean, something must have been wrong, especially after the way he played in the previous postseasons.

He's been unproductive and frankly diffident in his play this season.  The Pacers are desperate to get out from under his albatross contract.

That's probably true.  However, Hibbert, to me, seems to thrive off of Paul George, and having him miss practically the entire year certainly didn't help.  Why he played better when PG came back after everything that went on last year is pretty weird, to me, but maybe they buried the hatchet.  Who knows?  Plus, I think we've all seen the value of someone like Hibbert after our series with the Cavs.  I know that Bird is frustrated with the guy, and understandably so, but I wouldn't get rid of him - not if you want to get through Chicago and Cleveland, not to mention Washington and Atlanta, imo.

Hibbert thrives off Paul George, or it is his wife who does?! 

[jpotter33]

Kevin Love (shoulder) underwent surgery to repair his dislocated left shoulder on Wednesday afternoon, and he is expected to be sidelined for the next four to six months

Nba.com

Pretty much guarantees that he stays with the Cavs next year. Which also means Cleveland won't be players in next year's free-agency, which is good for us and our rebuild process.

You think? I think someone could still steal him by offering him a one year max or something of that nature. The injury was to his off-arm, so I don't think it should affect him that much long-term. Look at Avery. I believe he had the same sort of surgery due to his shoulders continuing to pop out in 2012, and that was on both shoulders. Since then, he hasn't had an issue with them.

I'd still offer him a contract this offseason, because I still believe that in the right system playing to his strengths he's a top-ten player in this league.

[Sixth Man]

Kevin Love (shoulder) underwent surgery to repair his dislocated left shoulder on Wednesday afternoon, and he is expected to be sidelined for the next four to six months

Nba.com

Pretty much guarantees that he stays with the Cavs next year. Which also means Cleveland won't be players in next year's free-agency, which is good for us and our rebuild process.

You think? I think someone could still steal him by offering him a one year max or something of that nature. The injury was to his off-arm, so I don't think it should affect him that much long-term. Look at Avery. I believe he had the same sort of surgery due to his shoulders continuing to pop out in 2012, and that was on both shoulders. Since then, he hasn't had an issue with them.

I'd still offer him a contract this offseason, because I still believe that in the right system playing to his strengths he's a top-ten player in this league.

I wouldn't touch that little twerp with a ten-foot barge pole.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Kevin Love (shoulder) underwent surgery to repair his dislocated left shoulder on Wednesday afternoon, and he is expected to be sidelined for the next four to six months

Nba.com

Pretty much guarantees that he stays with the Cavs next year. Which also means Cleveland won't be players in next year's free-agency, which is good for us and our rebuild process.

You think? I think someone could still steal him by offering him a one year max or something of that nature. The injury was to his off-arm, so I don't think it should affect him that much long-term. Look at Avery. I believe he had the same sort of surgery due to his shoulders continuing to pop out in 2012, and that was on both shoulders. Since then, he hasn't had an issue with them.

I'd still offer him a contract this offseason, because I still believe that in the right system playing to his strengths he's a top-ten player in this league.

First he has to take make a decision about opting in or out by a certain date PRIOR to free-agency beginning, which means no contact with other teams.

Secondly, chances of him opting-in were already quite high considering the big money that will be available to him in 2016.

For a one year contract, why the heck would he move to another team... a team that probably would be worse than the one he's currently at, not worth the hassle... particularly during a period of rehab.

I don't see him moving anywhere. The X-Factor is what LeBron decides. Ultimately I think he stays, if he opts out it will be to do a 2 year deal with a player option or such, still don't see him playing that out.

Or he really really really has the itch to play in LA, which is good for us as well. But an LA that is rebuilding in 2015-2016 vs. a Cavs team that has a very high chance of getting to the Finals? I think the choice should be fairly obvious.

If he opts out, well we'll see how the uncertainty freezes up Cavs' free-agency movement regardless. And an injured Love, who has injury history as it is, I don't think will freeze up the full free-agency like what occurred in 2014, which is good for us as well.

I pass on Love regardless.

[Beat LA]

Kevin Love is a seriously weak-minded player.  Guys like him and Hibbert should be avoided at all costs. 

Sorry to hear that he has a torn labrum, but in truth, he plays with fire all the time, except this time, he got burned.  The King of the NBA armbar was simply hoisted by own petard.  He is himself a very dirty player on occasion, which is yet another reason why he is generally disrespected here and on NBA boards everywhere.  I hope he opts out and goes to the Lakers.  It would be quite amusing to see Kobe and his contingent rip KL to shreds after the latest Lakers roster experiment fails.

How is Hibbert a weak-minded player?  He has his faults, sure, but weak-minded?  If you're talking about his atrocious performance in the 2014 playoffs, I think that that was largely to do with rumors of PG sleeping with his girlfriend, iirc, as well as all of the other turmoil on that team.  I mean, something must have been wrong, especially after the way he played in the previous postseasons.

He's been unproductive and frankly diffident in his play this season.  The Pacers are desperate to get out from under his albatross contract.

That's probably true.  However, Hibbert, to me, seems to thrive off of Paul George, and having him miss practically the entire year certainly didn't help.  Why he played better when PG came back after everything that went on last year is pretty weird, to me, but maybe they buried the hatchet.  Who knows?  Plus, I think we've all seen the value of someone like Hibbert after our series with the Cavs.  I know that Bird is frustrated with the guy, and understandably so, but I wouldn't get rid of him - not if you want to get through Chicago and Cleveland, not to mention Washington and Atlanta, imo.

Hibbert thrives off Paul George, or it is his wife who does?! 

Oh snap, lol - TP.  Could we also say that George's off court antics went far beyond PG-13 , ahaha?

[Beat LA]

You know, I wonder if Lebron misses Rashard Lewis right now.  He would be a tremendous help in offsetting the loss of Kevin Love, imo, and I was kind of surprised that the Cavs didn't sign him in the offseason, tbh.  He wouldn't help defensively, no, but he's played with Lebron before in the big moments and has always been a great clutch player, and his shooting ability would still allow the floor to be spread for James.  Just a thought.

[LarBrd33]

I hope Boston offers Love a max offer.  Even though he's out a half year.

[Endless Paradise]

You know, I wonder if Lebron misses Rashard Lewis right now.  He would be a tremendous help in offsetting the loss of Kevin Love, imo, and I was kind of surprised that the Cavs didn't sign him in the offseason, tbh.  He wouldn't help defensively, no, but he's played with Lebron before in the big moments and has always been a great clutch player, and his shooting ability would still allow the floor to be spread for James.  Just a thought.

The Mavs signed Lewis and then voided his contract due to some injury that was discovered after the fact. He missed the entire season as a result.

[Sixth Man]

Kevin Love is a seriously weak-minded player.  Guys like him and Hibbert should be avoided at all costs. 

Sorry to hear that he has a torn labrum, but in truth, he plays with fire all the time, except this time, he got burned.  The King of the NBA armbar was simply hoisted by own petard.  He is himself a very dirty player on occasion, which is yet another reason why he is generally disrespected here and on NBA boards everywhere.  I hope he opts out and goes to the Lakers.  It would be quite amusing to see Kobe and his contingent rip KL to shreds after the latest Lakers roster experiment fails.

How is Hibbert a weak-minded player?  He has his faults, sure, but weak-minded?  If you're talking about his atrocious performance in the 2014 playoffs, I think that that was largely to do with rumors of PG sleeping with his girlfriend, iirc, as well as all of the other turmoil on that team.  I mean, something must have been wrong, especially after the way he played in the previous postseasons.

He's been unproductive and frankly diffident in his play this season.  The Pacers are desperate to get out from under his albatross contract.

That's probably true.  However, Hibbert, to me, seems to thrive off of Paul George, and having him miss practically the entire year certainly didn't help.  Why he played better when PG came back after everything that went on last year is pretty weird, to me, but maybe they buried the hatchet.  Who knows?  Plus, I think we've all seen the value of someone like Hibbert after our series with the Cavs.  I know that Bird is frustrated with the guy, and understandably so, but I wouldn't get rid of him - not if you want to get through Chicago and Cleveland, not to mention Washington and Atlanta, imo.

Hibbert thrives off Paul George, or it is his wife who does?! 

Oh snap, lol - TP.  Could we also say that George's off court antics went far beyond PG-13 , ahaha?

Thanks.  After what went on this season in Indy, I don't want Hibbert nor P. George anywhere near the Celts locker room. 

[jpotter33]

Kevin Love is a seriously weak-minded player.  Guys like him and Hibbert should be avoided at all costs. 

Sorry to hear that he has a torn labrum, but in truth, he plays with fire all the time, except this time, he got burned.  The King of the NBA armbar was simply hoisted by own petard.  He is himself a very dirty player on occasion, which is yet another reason why he is generally disrespected here and on NBA boards everywhere.  I hope he opts out and goes to the Lakers.  It would be quite amusing to see Kobe and his contingent rip KL to shreds after the latest Lakers roster experiment fails.

How is Hibbert a weak-minded player?  He has his faults, sure, but weak-minded?  If you're talking about his atrocious performance in the 2014 playoffs, I think that that was largely to do with rumors of PG sleeping with his girlfriend, iirc, as well as all of the other turmoil on that team.  I mean, something must have been wrong, especially after the way he played in the previous postseasons.

He's been unproductive and frankly diffident in his play this season.  The Pacers are desperate to get out from under his albatross contract.

That's probably true.  However, Hibbert, to me, seems to thrive off of Paul George, and having him miss practically the entire year certainly didn't help.  Why he played better when PG came back after everything that went on last year is pretty weird, to me, but maybe they buried the hatchet.  Who knows?  Plus, I think we've all seen the value of someone like Hibbert after our series with the Cavs.  I know that Bird is frustrated with the guy, and understandably so, but I wouldn't get rid of him - not if you want to get through Chicago and Cleveland, not to mention Washington and Atlanta, imo.

Hibbert thrives off Paul George, or it is his wife who does?! 

Oh snap, lol - TP.  Could we also say that George's off court antics went far beyond PG-13 , ahaha?

Thanks.  After what went on this season in Indy, I don't want Hibbert nor P. George anywhere near the Celts locker room.

Ummm, I think I'd go all Viserys Targaryen on our locker room for the chance to have Paul George on our team.  Btw, that's a Game of Thrones pun if you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about lol