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Re: IT4 -- Are we back to Hero Ball? I hope not.
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 09:10:27 AM »

Offline slamtheking

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It's a Catch-22:

If you don't have a guy who wants every shot down the stretch, then you don't have a go-to guy.

If you have a guy who wants to take the shot every time down the stretch, then he's a selfish, ball hog.

It's a fine line.   
it's worse when that person is your PG who needs to get others involved in the offense instead of pounding the ball as much as Rondo used to be accused of doing.

also not fond of IT's developing habit of making jump-passes especially since his passing isn't exactly spot on when he's not jumping as he passes.  perhaps I'm spoiled from years of watching a PG that's a great passer and ballhandler and I'm just frustrated with watching guys like IT, Turner and Smart who arent'.

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 09:11:35 AM »

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I mean, they have been generating open three point looks and other deep jumpers, but are those really good looks for this team?  We have a floor spreading team that largely can't shoot all that well.  I suspect Blatt is telling his team to let us bomb away from deep, just don't give up the paint.  And it's working.

Thomas is the only guy who,can consistently get inside and finish.  Turner is your next best option, and I'd much prefer to let IT go at it.

Ideally IT would try to make use of screens and picks and occasionally get one of the big men involved, but those guys have been struggling to finish against Clevelands size late in games.
Open 3s are good for basically every team. The issue is when we try to run our offense, we either take a really out-of-control midrange jumper or we have to hit on several high-risk passes to get the open shots. Our players are not strong in terms of knowing how to give themselves good passing lanes and make passes in rhythm, and the result is skip passes or passes to people who just plain aren't open.

The open threes are good for any team, yeah, but when half your shooters from deep are barely even break-even from that distance, it's not something you can rely on.
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Re: IT4 -- Are we back to Hero Ball? I hope not.
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 09:14:15 AM »

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It's a Catch-22:

If you don't have a guy who wants every shot down the stretch, then you don't have a go-to guy.

If you have a guy who wants to take the shot every time down the stretch, then he's a selfish, ball hog.

It's a fine line.   
it's worse when that person is your PG who needs to get others involved in the offense instead of pounding the ball as much as Rondo used to be accused of doing.

also not fond of IT's developing habit of making jump-passes especially since his passing isn't exactly spot on when he's not jumping as he passes.  perhaps I'm spoiled from years of watching a PG that's a great passer and ballhandler and I'm just frustrated with watching guys like IT, Turner and Smart who arent'.

Give me the guy who attacks and gets to the line any day.  IT has been such a breath of fresh air in that regard.  The Celts as a team have plenty of passing.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2015, 09:22:38 AM »

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It's a Catch-22:

If you don't have a guy who wants every shot down the stretch, then you don't have a go-to guy.

If you have a guy who wants to take the shot every time down the stretch, then he's a selfish, ball hog.

It's a fine line.   
it's worse when that person is your PG who needs to get others involved in the offense instead of pounding the ball as much as Rondo used to be accused of doing.

also not fond of IT's developing habit of making jump-passes especially since his passing isn't exactly spot on when he's not jumping as he passes.  perhaps I'm spoiled from years of watching a PG that's a great passer and ballhandler and I'm just frustrated with watching guys like IT, Turner and Smart who arent'.

How is Rondo doing for you now???

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