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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2880 on: June 05, 2015, 09:24:13 AM »

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Cavs need to play other players , let a TEAM effort push them .  LeBron needs to play at 30 -35 minutes .  So at end of game or OT effort he has some energy .

If he does they'll get blown out. Especially with Irving down, they have no one that can attack the basket and score. Cleveland is in HUGE trouble.

Yeah, if Lebron plays 30 minutes, the Cavs will lose by 20.

I don't see where he excel at the defense event, nor where he make plays for others. The only thing he does is imposing his physicality or attract enough players on him to spread the floor for easy assist.

I don't think you could split hairs any finer if you wanted to.

I don't even understand the argument.  He doesn't make plays for others, except when he gets them wide open looks?


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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2881 on: June 05, 2015, 10:00:16 AM »

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...but, "put a bow on his career"?  Dude's only 31!  If he sticks with his current kind of role, he's got at least another 3-4 seasons of effective play left I think.


Absolutely!  Dude should be able to play for a while longer.

What I meant was that winning a title playing a huge role off the bench for an historically great team would be sort of the signature / crowning achievement for his career, it would really tie things up so that everything after that would be gravy. 

Though Iggy seems like the type who could go on to win a few rings over the next 5 years as a 3-and-D reserve, if he's willing to make that sacrifice.
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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2882 on: June 05, 2015, 10:18:20 AM »

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I don't see where he excel at the defense event, nor where he make plays for others. The only thing he does is imposing his physicality or attract enough players on him to spread the floor for easy assist.

I don't think you could split hairs any finer if you wanted to.

Haha my bad, what I meant was that they don't plan specific offense for other players to contribute.
Plan A : Lebron enter the paint and score or pass if he can't shoot.
Plan B (none) : Lebron can't enter the paint (shoot long 2)

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2883 on: June 05, 2015, 10:43:32 AM »

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Hahahaha that makes way more sense. TP for the explanation.


...but, "put a bow on his career"?  Dude's only 31!  If he sticks with his current kind of role, he's got at least another 3-4 seasons of effective play left I think.


Absolutely!  Dude should be able to play for a while longer.

What I meant was that winning a title playing a huge role off the bench for an historically great team would be sort of the signature / crowning achievement for his career, it would really tie things up so that everything after that would be gravy. 

Though Iggy seems like the type who could go on to win a few rings over the next 5 years as a 3-and-D reserve, if he's willing to make that sacrifice.

I also think Iggy is the modern-day prototype of what LeBron is now: while James was still trying to be a dominant wing player working in isolation (playing against his best interests and abilities, I should say) Iggy has always been the defense first point forward that James turned into when he really flourished in south beach.
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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2884 on: June 05, 2015, 10:56:42 AM »

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b-b-b-b-b-ut that Cavs' defense, though!  ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps making bold proclamations after 15 minutes of play isn't the safest strategy.

Cleveland shot 19-44 and Golden State shot 19-45 that half. Such a "bold proclamation" to suggest that the Cavs can match up defensively.  You know, like the stats have said all along about them this postseason. ::) ::) ::) ::)

No no no, let's not confuse what you've been arguing the last several days. Nobody said they couldn't matchup defensively against them, everybody has been arguing against your claims of the Cavs being some historically good defense and having a "tougher" road to the Finals than the Warriors, which is absolutely absurd.

And, again, let's not act like the Warriors haven't been shooting themselves in the foot. They've played a half-quarter of good basketball so far, and it's a 5 point game.

No, no, no, let's not confuse what *I've* been arguing versus what the article said; re-read what I actually said before falsely attributing things to me. What I said was that the Finals going to be a lot closer than anyone predicted because Cleveland had been playing noticeably better in the playoffs; I then cited an article that supported what my eye test had been showing me, including some details on their league-best defense against the three-pointer in the playoffs.

And, again, let's not act like this is a close game solely because the Warriors have messed up. Both teams are good offensive and defensive teams, hence why it's a tie game with the fourth quarter about to start.

And I've repeatedly said that as well, but it seems like you're suggesting that it's all due to the Cavs' defense when it has just as much to do with the Warriors playing badly themselves making unforced turnovers.

Not at all. What I've been suggesting this entire time - even before the game - is that Cleveland's defense is actually for real. And that you could see that in the game yesterday. That's it. Clearly the Warriors' struggles weren't ENTIRELY due to the Cavs' defense, but in those fifteen minutes you were dismissing, you could clearly see the impact Cleveland was having on that end. And that defensive performance wasn't an anomaly; they've been playing like that all throughout the playoffs. It's entirely why I went from being a nonbeliever and expecting them to go home in the second round before the postseason began to thinking they could win the entire thing once the playoffs started.

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2885 on: June 05, 2015, 11:15:22 AM »

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b-b-b-b-b-ut that Cavs' defense, though!  ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps making bold proclamations after 15 minutes of play isn't the safest strategy.

Cleveland shot 19-44 and Golden State shot 19-45 that half. Such a "bold proclamation" to suggest that the Cavs can match up defensively.  You know, like the stats have said all along about them this postseason. ::) ::) ::) ::)

No no no, let's not confuse what you've been arguing the last several days. Nobody said they couldn't matchup defensively against them, everybody has been arguing against your claims of the Cavs being some historically good defense and having a "tougher" road to the Finals than the Warriors, which is absolutely absurd.

And, again, let's not act like the Warriors haven't been shooting themselves in the foot. They've played a half-quarter of good basketball so far, and it's a 5 point game.

No, no, no, let's not confuse what *I've* been arguing versus what the article said; re-read what I actually said before falsely attributing things to me. What I said was that the Finals going to be a lot closer than anyone predicted because Cleveland had been playing noticeably better in the playoffs; I then cited an article that supported what my eye test had been showing me, including some details on their league-best defense against the three-pointer in the playoffs.

And, again, let's not act like this is a close game solely because the Warriors have messed up. Both teams are good offensive and defensive teams, hence why it's a tie game with the fourth quarter about to start.

And I've repeatedly said that as well, but it seems like you're suggesting that it's all due to the Cavs' defense when it has just as much to do with the Warriors playing badly themselves making unforced turnovers.

Not at all. What I've been suggesting this entire time - even before the game - is that Cleveland's defense is actually for real. And that you could see that in the game yesterday. That's it. Clearly the Warriors' struggles weren't ENTIRELY due to the Cavs' defense, but in those fifteen minutes you were dismissing, you could clearly see the impact Cleveland was having on that end. And that defensive performance wasn't an anomaly; they've been playing like that all throughout the playoffs. It's entirely why I went from being a nonbeliever and expecting them to go home in the second round before the postseason began to thinking they could win the entire thing once the playoffs started.

Cleveland has played really well defensively these whole playoffs true, but they aren't what the stats show. They played against the Bulls who often have trouble scoring, compounded by Gasol going down, the Hawks team missing several key players, and a Boston team who doesn't have any star. GS usually goes through bad starts, I think they had a few vs Houston and Memphis, and after a long layoff and all of them having no finals experience, you can say they were a bit tight (their shots were mostly long at the start)

I'd still put Memphis above them defensively these playoffs, esp with TA and Conley healthy. (Love isn't a good defensive players so it doesnt matter if he played or not).

Anyway I agree with the rest, Lebron is what kept them in the game, Cavs has a weaker supporting cast esp with Love and Kyrie injured and it showed. Thing is, lebron's agressiveness is a double edged sword. The fourth quarter and OT showed he was gassed.

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2886 on: June 07, 2015, 06:58:14 PM »

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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2887 on: June 07, 2015, 08:10:15 PM »

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Wow...

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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2888 on: June 07, 2015, 08:19:02 PM »

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Looked like Thompson was going for another 38 point quarter before that BS foul call.

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2889 on: June 07, 2015, 08:20:19 PM »

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Lebron needs to play the whole 48 for the Cavs to lose by 8  ::)

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2890 on: June 07, 2015, 08:29:27 PM »

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Warriors game is so much fun to watch !

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2891 on: June 07, 2015, 08:31:43 PM »

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You go Steph



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Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2892 on: June 07, 2015, 08:34:10 PM »

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Too much LeBron. Not enough help. Cleveland can't sustain this.

They are going to fall apart later in this game if they don't find someone else to help LeBron.

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2893 on: June 07, 2015, 08:36:45 PM »

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The last 10 playoff road teams have won under Scott Foster's watchful eye, interesting to see whether that holds up ::)

Re: NBA Playoffs Season 2014-2015
« Reply #2894 on: June 07, 2015, 08:41:55 PM »

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Cavs ......seem to play better

When Diva passes the ball once n a while ...

Instead of the  ISO   Play. ...every trip down court