Player stats since the all-star break

[LarBrd33]

Just thought it would be interesting to look at.  Boston has been 15-11 since the all-star break.  Here's the player stats during that time: 

PG - Bradley - 15.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.4 steals 42%/36%/71% in 33.7mpg
SG - Smart - 9.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.8 steals, 36%/31%/65% in 30.3mpg
SF - Turner - 11.1 points, 5.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 1.1 steals, 43%/27%/73% in 31.3mpg
PF - Bass - 12.7 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.4 steals 55%/35%/77% in 29.2mpg
C - Zeller - 11.3 points, 6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 0.2 steals, 54%/0%/81% in 23.3mpg
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SF - Crowder - 11.7 points, 5.9 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 0.8 steals 40%/28%/77% in 27.7mpg
PG - Thomas - 18.9 points, 2.1 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 0.6 steals, 40%/33%/86% in 26mpg
PF - Olynyk - 8.9 points, 3.4 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1 steal, 40%/32%/64% in 19.1mpg
PF - Jerebko - 6.9 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1 assists, 0.5 steals, 42%/39%/88% in 18.2mpg

Nobody else really relevant. 

I left out blocks, because we're dead-last in the league.  Not a single player averaging a single block. 

Gotta say I'm most impressed with Brandon Bass, Turner and Zeller.   Thomas obviously gets a lot of points, but so far he hasn't done it efficiently.   Interesting how much production Zeller has in his minutes.  He's averaging like 17 and 10 per 36 minutes.  Bass has quietly been really solid.   Turner is getting stats all across the board.

[chambers]

Good post.
Zeller has been averaging 17 points and 9.6 rebounds per 36 mins this year on 55% shooting.  Pretty impressive for a Cavs throw in.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I like all 3. If any one if expendable in a rebuild, I'd prefer it to be Turner only b/c he can be careless at times, turnover-prone, and lacks a natural position. He may receive some decent offers in FA, as well.

I hope we can keep these guys. I also doubt we will have much flexibility to move up in the draft... the tankers and failures are in worse positions than us and not looking for solid role players. Will be an interesting off-season.

[LGC88]

Nice post.
Looks like this team can't shoot the 3s.
I mean, unless you are a clutch player and like to enter 3s when they really matter, I don't think you should 3 ball when your % is below 35. A bit of math and you realize it's not worth it.
Zeller is very efficient. This guy is a nice backup C for the future.
I'm not concern about Marcus stats, since he can only improve his shooting.
Most of them need serious FT practice

[byennie]

Good post... couple things I would add:

Crowder: 11.9 pts, 5.9 reb, 1.6 ast, 0.8 stl, 40 / 28 / 77 in  27.7 mpg

Not bad production, although he really needs to shoot better from deep to keep playing that way offensively. Good rebounding and defense help, but if he could nudge up to 45/33/80 he'd have a much better chance of keeping those kind of minutes. Something like this would be worthy and shouldn't be out of reach:

14 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 45 / 33 / 80 in 30 mpg

The other thing that jumps out at me is IT's efficiency. His splits look a little rough until you figure that he's scoring 8 points per 40 from the free throw line, where he shoots 86%.

[Joe Green]

Here is why I think IT is a lot more impressive than his line suggests:

IT is creating his own shots. He is the only one other than maybe ET who can do that. Essentially, he is "assisting himself". He is also bailing out the team on every bad possession. That makes his shooting numbers dip compared to a spot shooter.

IT is responsible in big part for the other guys who are shooting well. He is the ONLY player on our team that the opposing team scrambles to defend. That leaves people like Zeller and Jerebko open to shoot.

IT is not a Lebron or KD but he brings that star quality of being able to carry the team when he is on the floor. Arguably ET, IT and Zeller are our 3 top players and we got them all for a sum total of ZERO draft picks (Zeller was a negative which cancels out IT).

So in essence - Danny has been killing it this year and since ASB we can see the fruits of his genius.

[CFAN38]

Just thought it would be interesting to look at.

PG - Bradley - 15.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.4 steals 42%/36%/71% in 33.7mpg
SG - Smart - 9.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.8 steals, 36%/31%/65% in 30.3mpg
SF - Turner - 11.1 points, 5.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 1.1 steals, 43%/27%/73% in 31.3mpg
PF - Bass - 12.7 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.4 steals 55%/35%/77% in 29.2mpg
C - Zeller - 11.3 points, 6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 0.2 steals, 54%/0%/81% in 23.3mpg
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PG - Thomas - 18.9 points, 2.1 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 0.6 steals, 40%/33%/86% in 26mpg
PF - Olynyk - 8.9 points, 3.4 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1 steal, 40%/32%/64% in 19.1mpg
PF - Jerebko - 6.9 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1 assists, 0.5 steals, 42%/39%/88% in 18.2mpg

Nobody else really relevant. 

I left out blocks, because we're dead-last in the league.  Not a single player averaging a single block. 

Gotta say I'm most impressed with Brandon Bass, Turner and Zeller.   Thomas obviously gets a lot of points, but so far he hasn't done it efficiently.   Interesting how much production Zeller has in his minutes.  He's averaging like 17 and 10 per 36 minutes.  Bass has quietly been really solid.   Turner is getting stats all across the board.

TP

Good post

[Bankshot]

I like all 3. If any one if expendable in a rebuild, I'd prefer it to be Turner only b/c he can be careless at times, turnover-prone, and lacks a natural position. He may receive some decent offers in FA, as well.

I hope we can keep these guys. I also doubt we will have much flexibility to move up in the draft... the tankers and failures are in worse positions than us and not looking for solid role players. Will be an interesting off-season.

Personally, I think Turner is the least expendable of the 3 because I believe he is the glue that holds this team together.

[Who]

Nobody doing enough to convince they can be part of Celtics core going forward.

[Eja117]

It's almost like this team could use a very smart pg to get them all better shots and then rebound their misses for them. 

[Atzar]

Nobody doing enough to convince they can be part of Celtics core going forward.

This, unfortunately.  So far this season, nobody on this team looks like a starter-caliber player on a contender.  Some guys could develop to that point - Smart, Bradley, and Zeller mostly - but the rest are better off as bench players. 

PG - Thomas - 18.9 points, 2.1 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 0.6 steals, 40%/33%/86% in 26mpg

Thomas obviously gets a lot of points, but so far he hasn't done it efficiently. 

Agree with your other comments, but a quick note on this:  you can't just look at IT's FG% and then shrug him off as inefficient.  Free throws are a huge part of his offensive game, and he's getting to the line at such a high rate that you can live with percentages being a few ticks below where you'd ideally want them to be - 19 points on 14 shots isn't bad at all.  On the other end of the spectrum is Bradley, who doesn't get to the line at all.  15 points on 15 shots just isn't good enough, despite the fact that his 2P% and 3P% are better than IT's. 


I was hoping Marcus Smart's offensive game would show some development as the year went on, but he's pretty much who he was at the beginning of the year.  Hope he really works at it this offseason. 

[slamtheking]

It's almost like this team could use a very smart pg to get them all better shots and then rebound their misses for them. 

We had one.  didn't seem to work out.

[slamtheking]

Nobody doing enough to convince they can be part of Celtics core going forward.

agreed.  C's have a roster of good bench players but no starters. 

[Eja117]

It's almost like this team could use a very smart pg to get them all better shots and then rebound their misses for them. 

We had one.  didn't seem to work out.

Except for the ring they won...(shhhh...which is the only thing that matters.   )

[Evantime34]

Great post, I think IT will have a role here for a long time as the 6th man.

Smart's numbers aren't great but his defense and ability to hit clutch shots gives me a lot of hope for the future.

I love what Turner has been doing but think he would be best served to be a back up and I hope that happens next year.