The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.

[ctrey]

Picking up Sullinger and Smart is hardly blowing it. Could be worse, we could be the Nets who have nothing to show for the pick they gave away years ago that became Damian Lillard. Or we could be the Clippers who gave away the pick that became Kyrie for nothing.

I can't think of a team that has drafted better than OKC years ago. Maybe the Pacers for getting George? It took him four years to blossom though. Why are you judging our picks when most of them haven't played three years yet?

Johnson and Melo are out of the league.

Sully has yet to play a full season and now has a weight problem he lied about last year during the off-season and seems not ready to really tackle.

Smart and Young I will let those picks play out but they both have issues.

[Chris22]

Ainge just picked up Isaiah Thomas for a draft pick.

Does that count?

[Nerf DPOY]

You can insult me all you would like but you have no counter to my actual argument. I am correct. Regarding the "Hindsight" line of debate, I specifically point out there were players Boston scouted extensively that Boston passed on, Antetokounmpo and Parsons. Boston has drafted awfully in 2011, 2012, 2013. 2014 is still in the air but early results are mixed at best. If you want to attack me for "whining" or "complaining" I hope living as a mindless yes man is to your liking.

A couple of people including myself have countered your 2012 argument. If Sully does in fact eat himself out of the league and Perry Jones makes some unprecedented leap then maybe you'll have something going. Maybe you can shed some light on how 2012 was such an abysmal failure for me and the rest of the mindless yes men/women.

[BornReady]

Didn't know we were close to getting parsons

 Etwaun Moore was and is a solid pick esp at 55 in a terrible draft despit thomas being a better player available

Sully is good at no21 he was considered top 10 before medical red flag and as if anyone not looking at sully didn't know he had weight issues. Weight issues are a challenge that players must overcome in order to have a long successful career.
Fab melo was terrible and was a draft for a need of C i believe. Ainge needed to trade money with him to get rid of him meaning he would rather pay more money to not play him than have him on the roster

Olynyk is a solid bench player but I guess people are comparing him to guys drafted behind who are better than him e.g. Giannis, Schroeder, gobert, Dieng

Smart and young are too early to tell but smart looks really good

Ainge looks like he is choosing more safe choices than gambles
All guys drafted have skills but not the potential to be superstars that come with a gamble

[Sixth Man]

Celtic fans do nothing but whine.

More like some people have different opinions than others.

Yup, some whine and some don't.

[GetLucky]

This goes to show how spoiled we are with Danny Ainge as a GM. Off the top of my head: We've had 6 first round picks in four years. Three are solid rotation players with potential (Sully, Smart, Olynyk). Two are busts in the mid-late first (Melo and Johnson). And one is up in the air (Young). Not to mention our second-rounder in 2012 (Moore) is still in the league with the contending Bulls.

Seriously, what other fan base wouldn't kill for that? The Timberwolves who have gotten the likes of Johnny Flynn and Derrick Williams with top-5 picks? Danny is now competing against himself in fans' minds. Everyone expects a Big Al or Rondo with a mid first rounder. Credit to Ainge for creating that precedent.

Also, who else could we have gotten this past year? Stauskas? Vonleh? Randle? Dougie McBuckets? Unless you would have not complained drafting a skinny mystery-stash Euro with the team's highest draft pick in years (hint: you probably would've), then there are no other real options. If we had Payton, I have a sneaking suspicion people would have hated him (what other PG puts up triple doubles and can't shoot a lick?)

This has been oft-stated: the guys Danny passes on, everyone passes on. Parsons was a second-round pick. What's that mean? At least 30 teams passed up on him. (I think he was actually picked in the mid-40s, making it even more.) I'm still not sold on GA. He's an athletic freak, but he still can't shoot a lick. Look at his "career high points" video on YouTube. There are literally no shots outside the paint. (And what "superstar" is barely breaking 12 points a game?) He's statistically, on offense at least, very similar to Olynyk in point production while offering a less-versatile threat. You often hear bigs reference the threat of an Olynyk three as a big problem. Giannis is a much better defender, but I think he's still too much of a liablility floor-spacing wise to have realistically thrived as a Celtic.

If that well-thought-out enough for you?

[Sixth Man]

You can insult me all you would like but you have no counter to my actual argument. I am correct. Regarding the "Hindsight" line of debate, I specifically point out there were players Boston scouted extensively that Boston passed on, Antetokounmpo and Parsons. Boston has drafted awfully in 2011, 2012, 2013. 2014 is still in the air but early results are mixed at best. If you want to attack me for "whining" or "complaining" I hope living as a mindless yes man is to your liking.

Of course you will accept any and all insults, and that is because you've been craving attention again.  No surprise there. 

[jpotter33]

[Eja117]

You have to admit Captain Hindsight is always right. But it would be nice if we could also have Captain Foresight on our team, but he tends to hang out with Madame Psychic and nobody gets to see her. Not no way. Not no how.

[Granath]

You can insult me all you would like but you have no counter to my actual argument. I am correct. Regarding the "Hindsight" line of debate, I specifically point out there were players Boston scouted extensively that Boston passed on, Antetokounmpo and Parsons. Boston has drafted awfully in 2011, 2012, 2013. 2014 is still in the air but early results are mixed at best. If you want to attack me for "whining" or "complaining" I hope living as a mindless yes man is to your liking.

Bullcrap.

Post - prior to those drafts - where you said you wanted a particular player and Ainge drafted someone else. Until you do, you're 20/20 hindsight drafting. Not only is that boring, it's an exercise for the simple minded. You're being attacked because your argument holds no water and is the argument of a child.

[Eja117]

Celtic fans do nothing but whine.

Woah woah woah. I kvetch and resort to childish attention seeking hyperbole. There's a difference.

[mr. dee]

Celtic fans do nothing but whine.

You would be one of them if Rondo is still here.

[esel1000]

Talk about getting ahead of yourself... had no clue Smart and Young were already busts. What if Sully comes back next season at 260 and dominates? What he's given us is already better than the majority of picks 20+...

[Sixth Man]

You have to admit Captain Hindsight is always right. But it would be nice if we could also have Captain Foresight on our team, but he tends to hang out with Madame Psychic and nobody gets to see her. Not no way. Not no how.

Madame Psychic?  You mean Niednagel, don't you? 

[DarkAzcura]

4 drafts blown in a row? I'm not even sure why I want to bother posting to a troll, but anyway...the ideology of "is he a bust or not" is so screwed up and twisted by negative nancies with sports fans. If a player is worthy of a draft pick higher than where he was picked, then the pick wasn't a screw up. I don't give an f if Giannis is a better player than Olynyk 4 years down the road (which is just an opinion anyway). Olynyk has proven worthy of being higher than 13 in his draft. That is not a failed pick.

Same with Sully in the 20s. Thinking that is a blown draft because of Melo is lolworthy. GM fails to get rotation player in 20s with one of his two picks. Call emergency services! Come on. Ainge has missed in 2 drafts in his tenure. TWO. You should be happy bro. Stop nitpicking.

We shouldn't even be talking about 2014 right now (or 2013 for that matter honestly).

The drafts where we picked JJJ and Giddens are the only drafts Ainge has screwed, and those were bottom of the first round. That's it. 95% of fans in this country would love to have a GM that rarely misses value in the draft regardless of if he found the "steal of all steals" every single year, which is completely unrealistic.