Ainge record on draft day

[slightly biased bias fan]

I'm just going to say I actually love Ainge as our GM.

He has got us back to relevance and to the 08 title, he has got us coup after coup in draft picks and picked up Coach Stevens who in my opinion is the best young coach in the league. But I think some of his draft history is questionable and even though I would rank him high in the list of GM's in drafting player I think he takes a back seat to; Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford (in no particular order).

Here is a list of the players Ainge has drafted and players missed.

2003- Kendrick Perkins, Brandon Hunter Missed: José Calderón
2004- Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen  Missed: None
2005- Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Orien Greene  Missed: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Marcin Gortat
2006- Rajon Rondo, Leon Powe Missed: None
2007- Gabe Pruitt Missed: Marc Gasol
2008- J. R. Giddens, Semih Erden Missed: Nikola Pekovic, Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Ömer Asik, Dragic, Timofey Mozgov
2009- Lester Hudson Missed: Aron Baynes, Wesley Matthews   
2010- Avery Bradley  Missed: Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson
2011- JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore  Missed: Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas
2012- Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph  Missed: Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton
2013- Kelly Olynyk Missed:Antetokounmpo, Dennis Schröder, Rudy Gobert,
2014- Marcus Smart, James Young Missed: (too early to tell)

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on, also I think he may need a big man consult as it seems to be his weakness. Overall like I said earlier he is very good on draft night but I think a few GM's edge him out on talent drafted

[clover]

I'm just going to say I actually love Ainge as our GM.

He has got us back to relevance and to the 08 title, he has got us coup after coup in draft picks and picked up Coach Stevens who in my opinion is the best young coach in the league. But I think some of his draft history is questionable and even though I would rank him high in the list of GM's in drafting player I think he takes a back seat to; Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford (in no particular order).

Here is a list of the players Ainge has drafted and players missed.

2003- Kendrick Perkins, Brandon Hunter Missed: José Calderón
2004- Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen  Missed: None
2005- Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Orien Greene  Missed: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Marcin Gortat
2006- Rajon Rondo, Leon Powe Missed: None
2007- Gabe Pruitt Missed: Marc Gasol
2008- J. R. Giddens, Semih Erden Missed: Nikola Pekovic, Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Ömer Asik, Dragic, Timofey Mozgov
2009- Lester Hudson Missed: Aron Baynes, Wesley Matthews   
2010- Avery Bradley  Missed: Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson
2011- JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore  Missed: Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas
2012- Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph  Missed: Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton
2013- Kelly Olynyk Missed:Antetokounmpo, Dennis Schröder, Rudy Gobert,
2014- Marcus Smart, James Young Missed: (too early to tell)

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on, also I think he may need a big man consult as it seems to be his weakness. Overall like I said earlier he is very good on draft night but I think a few GM's edge him out on talent drafted

I think that's fair. Danny's very good, but certainly not the best at drafting. I'm not sure that nepotism makes for the best draft room either.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Out of all drafts i'd say Danny's biggest mistake is the 07 draft. If he picks up Gasol I think we win at least one more championship or even a three peat.

[mctyson]

I'm just going to say I actually love Ainge as our GM.

He has got us back to relevance and to the 08 title, he has got us coup after coup in draft picks and picked up Coach Stevens who in my opinion is the best young coach in the league. But I think some of his draft history is questionable and even though I would rank him high in the list of GM's in drafting player I think he takes a back seat to; Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford (in no particular order).

Here is a list of the players Ainge has drafted and players missed.

2003- Kendrick Perkins, Brandon Hunter Missed: José Calderón
2004- Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen  Missed: None
2005- Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Orien Greene  Missed: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Marcin Gortat
2006- Rajon Rondo, Leon Powe Missed: None
2007- Gabe Pruitt Missed: Marc Gasol
2008- J. R. Giddens, Semih Erden Missed: Nikola Pekovic, Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Ömer Asik, Dragic, Timofey Mozgov
2009- Lester Hudson Missed: Aron Baynes, Wesley Matthews   
2010- Avery Bradley  Missed: Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson
2011- JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore  Missed: Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas
2012- Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph  Missed: Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton
2013- Kelly Olynyk Missed:Antetokounmpo, Dennis Schröder, Rudy Gobert,
2014- Marcus Smart, James Young Missed: (too early to tell)

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on, also I think he may need a big man consult as it seems to be his weakness. Overall like I said earlier he is very good on draft night but I think a few GM's edge him out on talent drafted

Please conduct same analysis for Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford, then we will talk.

[Granath]

I'm just going to say I actually love Ainge as our GM.

He has got us back to relevance and to the 08 title, he has got us coup after coup in draft picks and picked up Coach Stevens who in my opinion is the best young coach in the league. But I think some of his draft history is questionable and even though I would rank him high in the list of GM's in drafting player I think he takes a back seat to; Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford (in no particular order).

Here is a list of the players Ainge has drafted and players missed.

2003- Kendrick Perkins, Brandon Hunter Missed: José Calderón
2004- Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen  Missed: None
2005- Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Orien Greene  Missed: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Marcin Gortat
2006- Rajon Rondo, Leon Powe Missed: None
2007- Gabe Pruitt Missed: Marc Gasol
2008- J. R. Giddens, Semih Erden Missed: Nikola Pekovic, Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Ömer Asik, Dragic, Timofey Mozgov
2009- Lester Hudson Missed: Aron Baynes, Wesley Matthews   
2010- Avery Bradley  Missed: Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson
2011- JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore  Missed: Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas
2012- Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph  Missed: Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton
2013- Kelly Olynyk Missed:Antetokounmpo, Dennis Schröder, Rudy Gobert,
2014- Marcus Smart, James Young Missed: (too early to tell)

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on, also I think he may need a big man consult as it seems to be his weakness. Overall like I said earlier he is very good on draft night but I think a few GM's edge him out on talent drafted

Thank you for this wonderful example of the logical fallacy of cherry picking.

[DavorCroatiaFan]

Come on...
2003. Perk was our starting center in 08, Hunter was pick #56.   GRADE: B+
2004. Big Al gave us KG, TA and Delonte late picks. GRADE: A+
2005. Gerald Green was a risk, Gomes very good pick. GRADE: C
2006. No Rondo & Powe, no #17.  GRADE: A+
2007. Pruitt in 2nd round...only Marc Gasol and Sessions left. GRADE: C
2008. Giddens...bigest mistake. GRADE: E
2009. Hudson pick #58. Every team pass up twice on Matthews. GRADE: INCOMPLETE
2010. Bradley > Stephenson & Whiteside. GRADE: A
2011. JJJ and Moore. Not good. GRADE: C-
2012. Hit with Sully, miss with Melo. GRADE: B
2013. Olynyk, solid pick. GRADE: B
2014. Smart & Young...very good picks

Ainge's biggest problem is disregarding international prospects. Thats why C's missed on Gasol, Pekovic, Dragic, Antetonkounpmo, Gobert...
I know the C's didnt have much luck with european players since Dino Radja (Sundov, Tabak, Pavlovic, Krstic, Milicic...), but look at Jerebko and Datome. European guys can play. And i hope that with tons of our draft pick we draft euro players and stash them...and hopefully find another Ginobilli or Gasol...

[jonaslopes]

Stupid discussion. It's easy to come back and say these things. Now you know who is good and who is not. Marc Gasol wasn't a great prospect at the time. The guy was a 48th pick! Danny made mistakes, obviously, but picked some good players too. It's impossible to know who is going to be really good.

What if Ainge decides to draft, say, Guillermo Hernangomez instead of Cauley-Stein? "He is dumb". How can anybody possibly know who is going to be better? "Hernangomez is a second round draft player!" So was Gasol, and he is now much better than Corey Brewer or Acie Law. It's always a risk.

Stop with this pointless discussion.

[Eja117]

I generally consider DA a better than average drafter, and sometimes very good. But I admit some of those sting.

On the other hand some of those are way out of context. Isaiah Thomas was the last pick in the draft. Everyone passed on him.

Some of those years we needed bigs. You can't expect to go best available every year.

[arctic 3.0]

Stupid discussion. It's easy to come back and say these things. Now you know who is good and who is not. Marc Gasol wasn't a great prospect at the time. The guy was a 48th pick! Danny made mistakes, obviously, but picked some good players too. It's impossible to know who is going to be really good.

What if Ainge decides to draft, say, Guillermo Hernangomez instead of Cauley-Stein? "He is dumb". How can anybody possibly know who is going to be better? "Hernangomez is a second round draft player!" So was Gasol, and he is now much better than Corey Brewer or Acie Law. It's always a risk.

Stop with this pointless discussion.

If you think the discussion is pointless just don't post and move on to something of interest.
Imagine someone walking around at a party and interjecting into overheard conversations "this is stupid, stop talking".
Great way to keep a party hopping...

[slightly biased bias fan]

Stupid discussion. It's easy to come back and say these things. Now you know who is good and who is not. Marc Gasol wasn't a great prospect at the time. The guy was a 48th pick! Danny made mistakes, obviously, but picked some good players too. It's impossible to know who is going to be really good.

What if Ainge decides to draft, say, Guillermo Hernangomez instead of Cauley-Stein? "He is dumb". How can anybody possibly know who is going to be better? "Hernangomez is a second round draft player!" So was Gasol, and he is now much better than Corey Brewer or Acie Law. It's always a risk.

Stop with this pointless discussion.

Thank you for this wonderful example of the logical fallacy of cherry picking.

Honestly I rarely get upset on the forum but what is with the sarcasm and rudeness?

Aren't we all Celtics fans here?

I have posted facts here and if you had read my post, instead of being a keyboard warrior, you would understand the point I was intending to make. Ainge has problems picking bigs and like the other gentleman stated he disregards international players. Yes some players listed were passed up by other teams but like I said he is much better then 75% of G.Ms in the league but unlike R. C. Buford he hasn't picked up players like Manu or Parker and that makes him the best.

[boscel33]

Two points.

The first is that every GM in every sport misses!  It's the way it is!

Point two, personally, the 2011 is the one that hurts.  Put two of those three listed on this team and see where we are.

[Chris22]

"Ainge's biggest problem is disregarding international prospects."

This and missing on athletic big men.

[Roy H.]

I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on

If this means "failed to pick the best player on the board", my guess is that the above standard is true of every GM, ever.

[greg683x]

I'm just going to say I actually love Ainge as our GM.

He has got us back to relevance and to the 08 title, he has got us coup after coup in draft picks and picked up Coach Stevens who in my opinion is the best young coach in the league. But I think some of his draft history is questionable and even though I would rank him high in the list of GM's in drafting player I think he takes a back seat to; Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford (in no particular order).

Here is a list of the players Ainge has drafted and players missed.

2003- Kendrick Perkins, Brandon Hunter Missed: José Calderón
2004- Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen  Missed: None
2005- Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Orien Greene  Missed: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Marcin Gortat
2006- Rajon Rondo, Leon Powe Missed: None
2007- Gabe Pruitt Missed: Marc Gasol
2008- J. R. Giddens, Semih Erden Missed: Nikola Pekovic, Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Ömer Asik, Dragic, Timofey Mozgov
2009- Lester Hudson Missed: Aron Baynes, Wesley Matthews   
2010- Avery Bradley  Missed: Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson
2011- JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore  Missed: Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas
2012- Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph  Missed: Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton
2013- Kelly Olynyk Missed:Antetokounmpo, Dennis Schröder, Rudy Gobert,
2014- Marcus Smart, James Young Missed: (too early to tell)

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I think Ainge has missed more than he's hit on, also I think he may need a big man consult as it seems to be his weakness. Overall like I said earlier he is very good on draft night but I think a few GM's edge him out on talent drafted

Please conduct same analysis for Gar Forman, Sam Presti, Bob Myers, R. C. Buford, then we will talk.

i was going to post the same thing.  what also needs to be included is where these GMs picked these players from.  For instance, Presti's hit just about all his homeruns having top 5 picks in the draft.  How many times has Ainge picked in the top 5??  Context is huge here.

[incoherent]

Nice list however it lacks any compairson to other GMs.

Maybe about a year ago I read an article (I will try to find it again) that rated all NBA GMs by the win shares their picks produced.  Danny was 5th on the list.