Between Doc (Clippers) & Brad (Boston), who will win a championship first?

[sed522002]

I'm not going to compare coaches. I'll just compare their situations. Doc is in a loaded West and I don't really consider them favorites to win. He has a BY FAR better roster but his conference is hell.
BS doesn't have a star roster, but he has the luxury of playing in a weak conference. If he gets a star or two..watch out..it'll be interesting.

[Eja117]

Oh wait. Was I not supposed to say that because that means I have a hangup on a former coach or something?

[JHTruth]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Doc has many strengths, not the least of which is handling superstar egos. And Leon Lowe? Perk? Doc coached his rear off that year..

[Ogaju]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Go back and watch that 2008 NBA Finals series. That Laker team was garbage. Pure unadulterated GARBAGE. They started a player named Radmanovich? The fact that the series was in doubt at one point is evidence of Doc's ineptitude as a coach. The fact that we beat the Lakers by over 30 points in a close out game is proof positive that Laker team was garbage.

Doc was on the verge of losing that series if he had not been forced by injuries and foul trouble to actually play some of the talent on his team. Just a woeful coach that depends on star players. That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

[JHTruth]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Go back and watch that 2008 NBA Finals series. That Laker team was garbage. Pure unadulterated GARBAGE. They started a player named Radmanovich? The fact that the series was in doubt at one point is evidence of Doc's ineptitude as a coach. The fact that we beat the Lakers by over 30 points in a close out game is proof positive that Laker team was garbage.

Doc was on the verge of losing that series if he had not been forced by injuries and foul trouble to actually play some of the talent on his team. Just a woeful coach that depends on star players. That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

Radmanovich was one of the best three point shooters in the league. And we never "close" to losing that series. And Vegas had Lakers winning going in..

[D.o.s.]

That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

And he was absolutely right. Good NBA head coaches don't want to coach bad teams. Doc's put together a better season with a crappy team than Stevens has. I know everyone's excited to find something to get excited about, and Stevens excites a lot of you, but let's keep it somewhat tempered?

[JHTruth]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Go back and watch that 2008 NBA Finals series. That Laker team was garbage. Pure unadulterated GARBAGE. They started a player named Radmanovich? The fact that the series was in doubt at one point is evidence of Doc's ineptitude as a coach. The fact that we beat the Lakers by over 30 points in a close out game is proof positive that Laker team was garbage.

Doc was on the verge of losing that series if he had not been forced by injuries and foul trouble to actually play some of the talent on his team. Just a woeful coach that depends on star players. That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

Why would Doc go through another rebuilding when he is a championship coach? Name a contender coach that doesn't "depend on star players". This is a stars league. I guess Doc should trade CP3 for scrubs to "prove" he is a good coach..

[Ogaju]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Go back and watch that 2008 NBA Finals series. That Laker team was garbage. Pure unadulterated GARBAGE. They started a player named Radmanovich? The fact that the series was in doubt at one point is evidence of Doc's ineptitude as a coach. The fact that we beat the Lakers by over 30 points in a close out game is proof positive that Laker team was garbage.

Doc was on the verge of losing that series if he had not been forced by injuries and foul trouble to actually play some of the talent on his team. Just a woeful coach that depends on star players. That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

Radmanovich was one of the best three point shooters in the league. And we never "close" to losing that series. And Vegas had Lakers winning going in..

of course Vegas had the Lakers going in, look who we had for a coach.

[Ogaju]

Not very fair to Brad...

Doc has like twenty years experience and CP3 and other stars ....Doc is chicken to hurt his image with crappy , bench players ......that would require effort on his part to coach.

Brad ain't got squat .....his best player is 5'9".....

The 2008 championship squad was a roster with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, James Posey, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House, Tony Allen, Sam Cassell, Leon Powe, P.J. Brown, Big Baby Davis, and garbage time man, Brian Scalabrine.

All of the above were healthy, and thus, every position was deep. They were stacked. This was the best team that year (and 66 wins kinda makes it obvious), if Doc couldn't win with them, who else could he win with?

I'd say that you could pick a random coach in the NBA and he'd also win a title with this crew.

Go back and watch that 2008 NBA Finals series. That Laker team was garbage. Pure unadulterated GARBAGE. They started a player named Radmanovich? The fact that the series was in doubt at one point is evidence of Doc's ineptitude as a coach. The fact that we beat the Lakers by over 30 points in a close out game is proof positive that Laker team was garbage.

Doc was on the verge of losing that series if he had not been forced by injuries and foul trouble to actually play some of the talent on his team. Just a woeful coach that depends on star players. That is why he hightailed it out of town when he perceived the talent in Boston was gone.

Why would Doc go through another rebuilding when he is a championship coach? Name a contender coach that doesn't "depend on star players". This is a stars league. I guess Doc should trade CP3 for scrubs to "prove" he is a good coach..

No, what he should do is try to at least win the WEST.

[D.o.s.]

I'm curious -- what standard is Doc, the championship winning coach, not meeting that Brad Stevens is?

[Chris22]

I'm curious -- what standard is Doc, the championship winning coach, not meeting that Brad Stevens is?

Brad doesn't overplay his starters until they break down.

Brad doesn't "go small" in the fourth quarter of every game.

Brad doesn't let a diva point guard stop playing defense for two years.

Brad doesn't say "we didn't trust each other" after every loss.

Brad is a better coach than Doc Rivers.

[BASS_THUMPER]

Tony Allen

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[nickagneta]

The lack of respect that a former Celtic championship winning coach gets on this, the best Celtics fan site on the internet is truly disturbing.

How many coaches in history have the best single win loss turnaround in NBA history?
How many other coaches have out coaches Phil Jackson to win a title?
How many other coaches have taken a collection of player thrown together in one off season and got them to gel instantly and win a championship in their first year with that group?
How many coaches can brag they may have coached the greatest NBA defense of all time?

That's what Doc Rivers has done. Don't like the guy? Fine. Don't agree with some of the ways he coaches? Fine. But show a little respect. He coached this team to a title and a chance at another and did a hell of a job doing it.

[indeedproceed]

First to win a championship: Brad Stevens

NCAA Championship, 3 years. Maybe Indiana? Who knows.

[D.o.s.]

I'm curious -- what standard is Doc, the championship winning coach, not meeting that Brad Stevens is?

Brad doesn't overplay his starters until they break down.

Brad doesn't "go small" in the fourth quarter of every game.

Brad doesn't let a diva point guard stop playing defense for two years.

Brad doesn't say "we didn't trust each other" after every loss.

Brad is a better coach than Doc Rivers.

Some of this post has merit.

The conclusion is not one of them.