He is a restricted free agent this offseason. His qualifying offer is $4.5, if we make the qualifying offer we will have the right to match any offer he gets.

4.5 million per season?
For how many years?

I think 3-3.5 million a season could be a good deal for everyone

First off I like what Crowder has done here. Didn't think he'd be the best piece from the Rondo trade. I want him back but even a 3-4 mil contract messes with our cap numbers. I'd also like to have Jerebko back too for the right price.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston.htm

If the cap is around $65 mil for next year I think we could get either Crowder or Jerebko and a max FA. Adding the two rookies and our salaries will be around $45 mil so I feel like we could either get both of them back (maybe cut/trade Turner) and get a FA around 10-12 mil or neither and get a real $20 mil FA.

First off I like what Crowder has done here. Didn't think he'd be the best piece from the Rondo trade. I want him back but even a 3-4 mil contract messes with our cap numbers. I'd also like to have Jerebko back too for the right price.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston.htm

If the cap is around $65 mil for next year I think we could get either Crowder or Jerebko and a max FA. Adding the two rookies and our salaries will be around $45 mil so I feel like we could either get both of them back (maybe cut/trade Turner) and get a FA around 10-12 mil or neither and get a real $20 mil FA.

Trading Wallace with a pick to a team with cap space (Philly for example) could be another way for us to generate significant cap space. That's always a likely possibility assuming we need the space for a signing.

My bad I think I was wrong on the qualifying offer it is actually $1,181,348. I expect them to wait to wait to sign him until after we explore big time free agents. That way we could go over the cap to sign him. At this point I would be surprised if he's not back next year.

Datome has a $2,187,500 QO so i'm not sure they extend that offer.

Can you make the Jae Crowder contract situation clear ?

What is the min we can pay out to retain his service? Amount and years?

What is likely going to happen?

What is the worse (if Crowder and agent get greedy)?

My bad I think I was wrong on the qualifying offer it is actually $1,181,348. I expect them to wait to wait to sign him until after we explore big time free agents. That way we could go over the cap to sign him. At this point I would be surprised if he's not back next year.

Datome has a $2,187,500 QO so i'm not sure they extend that offer.

There will be cap holds on both Datome and Crowder (Jerebko as well, for that matter). It will be interesting to see how the Cs approach all this in the offseason. I suspect they renounce all their holds except Crowder, and make a QO to Crowder.

Quote from: Evantime34 on March 12, 2015, 11:11:45 AM

My bad I think I was wrong on the qualifying offer it is actually $1,181,348. I expect them to wait to wait to sign him until after we explore big time free agents. That way we could go over the cap to sign him. At this point I would be surprised if he's not back next year.

Datome has a $2,187,500 QO so i'm not sure they extend that offer.

Can you make the Jae Crowder contract situation clear ?

What is the min we can pay out to retain his service? Amount and years?

What is likely going to happen?

What is the worse (if Crowder and agent get greedy)?

Jae Crowder will be extended a qualifying offer of $1,181,348.  He will have a cap hold of this amount as long as the qualifying offer is still extended. The Celtics can rescind this offer at any time, as long as Crowder hasn't already accepted it.  The Celtics will have his Bird rights, so he can be signed for up to a 5-year deal beginning at around $16 million with 7.5% raises.  This will not happen, but anything between the minimum and the amount, for 1-5 years, is permissible.

Any other team may make an offer to him for up to four years, with the same $16 million salary and 4.5% raises.  This too is unlikely, but permissible.  As long as the Celtics have a qualifying offer extended to him, any deal Crowder agrees to with another team can be matched by the Celtics within 3 days, in which case he remains a Celtic.

While he is a free agent, his cap hold is equal to his qualifying offer.  Accordingly, the Celtics can use up their cap space to sign a free agent, and then go over the cap by giving Crowder a salary in excess of his cap hold.  I do not expect the Celtics to sign Crowder to a new contract until they've made other moves, not because their waiting to see if Crowder still fits in the roster, but because his salary counts less while he remains unsigned.

I expect the Celtics would match an offer for Crowder for up to the MLE, but I don't think he will get that large an offer.  I feel he will get a 3-4 year deal for $3-4 million per season, with the final year being unguaranteed, and a guarantee date of June 30th at the end of the prior season.  I'm hopeful the contract declines in value every year instead of getting raises, since Ainge has more room to offer a large salary upfront this year.

The market for players like Crowder might not be huge.  He's a useful role player, but do you really want to have that player cutting into your salary next year when you want to go for a star?  Teams like Utah will be interested, and maybe Atlanta, but a lot of teams will wait for next year to get the Crowders of the world.

Quote from: Evantime34 on March 12, 2015, 11:11:45 AM

My bad I think I was wrong on the qualifying offer it is actually $1,181,348. I expect them to wait to wait to sign him until after we explore big time free agents. That way we could go over the cap to sign him. At this point I would be surprised if he's not back next year.

Datome has a $2,187,500 QO so i'm not sure they extend that offer.

There will be cap holds on both Datome and Crowder (Jerebko as well, for that matter). It will be interesting to see how the Cs approach all this in the offseason. I suspect they renounce all their holds except Crowder, and make a QO to Crowder.

They will only renounce their holds if they are able to use that cap room to acquire a free agent or make a trade.  Otherwsie they will not renounce.  The cap hold may expire if the players sign elsewhere, however.  Our largest hold is for Brandon Bass, FWIW.