Man Stabbed at Celts Grizz game

[Celtics4ever]

love the couple that gets up and leaves....err moves 2 seats down..

Me too they had front row seats.  So they moved to safety and watched.

What a bunch of posers.   You play tough, run your mouth, sometimes you will get hurt.    There have always been true predators among men who would make such people pay.  But all those guys would get owned by a dude with real fighting skills.  One almost hopes they walk into the wrong neighborhood.

BTW, I can't believe a knife got through security post 9/11.  I watch the Celtics lives when they play the Pacers and they metal detect everyone.  You would confiscate your knife at the door or you would not get in, period.

[wayupnorth]

I agree, insofar as 'thug' is a word with a definition. It is also, very often, coded language.

Are you serious?

 

[wayupnorth]

I agree, insofar as 'thug' is a word with a definition. It is also, very often, coded language.

Is that stabbing dude a thug or not?

Sure he is. There are also people who use thug to describe non-criminal black people in a pejorative fashion. What's so hard for you to understand about this.

It's like, if I called you a mongoloid, but you weren't ethnically east Asian. Then I'd bring up a picture of someone who was mongoloid and say "mongoloid isn't derogatory. This image proves it."

And then you'd respond thusly: 

Wow.

[D.o.s.]

Problem with my post?

[Nerf DPOY]

The more I think about it, the more I'm coming around to the idea of classifying these kids as 'tool bags'.

 I've got no sympathy for the victim here, as it certainly looked like he instigated it. They should charge him while they're at it.

[LooseCannon]

Is it trolling if I intentionally used the term "thug" in this thread just to see if anyone reacted?

[GetLucky]

Is it really politically incorrect to use the word "thug" now?

"Don't say that! You might insult the thugs!"

[indeedproceed]

Is it trolling if I intentionally used the term "thug" in this thread just to see if anyone reacted?

Only by definition.

[Celtics4ever]

I think they are what I would have called a "punk" and that is insulting to me on some level as I love punk rock.

[mgent]

Wasn't there a pretty heated argument/thread about whether or not Tony Allen was a "thug" like 4 years ago?

[indeedproceed]

Is it really politically incorrect to use the word "thug" now?

"Don't say that! You might insult the thugs!"

It really has a lot to do with what you mean by 'thug' and who you're describing. If Hassan Whiteside is a 'Thug' but Jusef Nurkic is 'scrappy and plays hard', yeah that's a party foul.

Its also related to the common parlance. Thug, in the context of our use of the word as a society over the last couple decades, has definite racial connotations. So when people use it, there is going to be some kind of reaction as if that was the intended or implied undertone.

[wayupnorth]

Problem with my post?

I respect you as a poster, but to insinuate that "thug" is a code word for racism is pretty ridiculous.

Sure it can be, but many words can.

[wayupnorth]

Is it really politically incorrect to use the word "thug" now?

"Don't say that! You might insult the thugs!"

It really has a lot to do with what you mean by 'thug' and who you're describing. If Hassan Whiteside is a 'Thug' but Jusef Nurkic is 'scrappy and plays hard', yeah that's a party foul.

Its also related to the common parlance. Thug, in the context of our use of the word as a society over the last couple decades, has definite racial connotations. So when people use it, there is going to be some kind of reaction as if that was the intended or implied undertone.

How do you figure?

Outside of Tupac/the rap game.

[GetLucky]

Is it really politically incorrect to use the word "thug" now?

"Don't say that! You might insult the thugs!"

It really has a lot to do with what you mean by 'thug' and who you're describing. If Hassan Whiteside is a 'Thug' but Jusef Nurkic is 'scrappy and plays hard', yeah that's a party foul.

Its also related to the common parlance. Thug, in the context of our use of the word as a society over the last couple decades, has definite racial connotations. So when people use it, there is going to be some kind of reaction as if that was the intended or implied undertone.

You make good points. From a psycological view, it's actually quite intersting. I'd find it really worth investigating if I didn't find it so funny. Seemingly everything now has some sort of racial context that, fairly or unfairly, seems to impede the use of the word. The definition of punk is: (n) a worthless person. If someone is acting like a punk, that's the word I'm going to use. No one can tell me anything about racial double-intent that will make me go out of my way to circumnavigate my statement and wade through my lexicon for a phrase more or less synonymous with my original thoughts that is "more politically correct." The reason? I know I have no racist/prejudicial intent when I make a statement.

African-American, Caucasian, Asian, whatever someone is, if they are acting like a punk or a thug or a criminal, that's the word I'm going to use, no matter what people think my "ulterior motives/meanings" might be. I'm honestly just amazed that people are facing criticism for calling two people that are drunk out of their minds and fighting in a public venue punks. Sure, the actual denotation is a little harsh (especially when you bring in even more-controversial religious views), but the connotation, where I live, is generally someone making a donkey of himself/herself. That is pretty clearly what is going on in said video.

Back to the big picture, though, I'm wondering where all of this will end up. We as a society are in relatively uncharted waters in regards to racial equality, and I think many morals and commonplace phrases will be questioned over the next 50 or so years. Almost every phrase can be construed to seem "racist," so it'll be interesting to see where society draws the line.

[Nerf DPOY]

Something amusing involving 2 of the links Roy posted detailing this kid's past arrests --- One of his arrests was for underage drinking at a house party where several of his friends were also arrested, one of them for punching a cop. The other link a year before he was arrested for baseball batting his friends car during an ongoing argument. Same article, earlier that day those same friends from the party were arrested for trying(and failing) to steal some guy's bicycle. Totally unrelated incidents. Did anyone else see that?