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Zeller the odd man out at this rate?
« on: March 10, 2015, 08:08:24 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 08:19:17 PM »

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He'll be fine! I will say, Zeller does get away with bad play on CB a lot. He is a good kid and he could be a very good player when he is in his prime. Good defense, nice jumper from about 10ft, and will pnr a team to death. We don't have to clear the team of everybody!! Let's enjoy the players while we have them.

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2015, 08:19:26 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

Why do you think Bass will be back for several seasons? He's turning 30 next month and we already are log jammed at the 4. Zeller's potential is as a backup center/4th rotation big on a solid playoff team. So adding a rim protector this summer would not only fill a need, but put Zeller in a role that better suits his talent level.

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2015, 08:22:40 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

Why do you think Bass will be back for several seasons? He's turning 30 next month and we already are log jammed at the 4. Zeller's potential is as a backup center/4th rotation big on a solid playoff team. So adding a rim protector this summer would not only fill a need, but put Zeller in a role that better suits his talent level.

From the bench do you really need a good backup C. I mean is it a essential thing?

How many dominant backup Cs are there in the league??

Zeller main use would be to try to slow down good starting centers in the league. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2015, 08:27:08 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

Why do you think Bass will be back for several seasons? He's turning 30 next month and we already are log jammed at the 4. Zeller's potential is as a backup center/4th rotation big on a solid playoff team. So adding a rim protector this summer would not only fill a need, but put Zeller in a role that better suits his talent level.

From the bench do you really need a good backup C. I mean is it a essential thing?

It's definitely not a bad thing.

My ideal rotation would be something like this at the start of next season:

Sullinger/Olynyk
Athletic Rim Protector/Zeller


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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 08:31:19 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

Why do you think Bass will be back for several seasons? He's turning 30 next month and we already are log jammed at the 4. Zeller's potential is as a backup center/4th rotation big on a solid playoff team. So adding a rim protector this summer would not only fill a need, but put Zeller in a role that better suits his talent level.

From the bench do you really need a good backup C. I mean is it a essential thing?

It's definitely not a bad thing.

My ideal rotation would be something like this at the start of next season:

Sullinger/Olynyk
Athletic Rim Protector/Zeller

In your view, Bass and Jerebko gone for next season?

If we get a center, lets say a bigger zeller but not as quick/athletic.  We have a slow front court again.

And CBS seems to like this small ball business quite a bit

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2015, 08:34:23 PM »

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Bass has outplayed him recently.  CBS favours Jerebko late in games. Zeller has been getting in foul problems and hasn't produced very good stats.  Poor compared to what he did a month /month a half ago.

For next season we have a logjam at the pf/c spot.  Sullinger/KO imo are safe.  It sounds like Bass will be kept a few more seasons. Jerebko should be cheap to keep as that extra energy pf off the bench

Maybe our 1st, 2nd, Zeller could help us move to a 5-7 pick range vs 10-13?

Why do you think Bass will be back for several seasons? He's turning 30 next month and we already are log jammed at the 4. Zeller's potential is as a backup center/4th rotation big on a solid playoff team. So adding a rim protector this summer would not only fill a need, but put Zeller in a role that better suits his talent level.

From the bench do you really need a good backup C. I mean is it a essential thing?

It's definitely not a bad thing.

My ideal rotation would be something like this at the start of next season:

Sullinger/Olynyk
Athletic Rim Protector/Zeller

In your view, Bass and Jerebko gone for next season?

Yeah, I think Bass is a goner. Jerebko is a little younger, and is unlikely to command what Bass would, so I could see him back on the team as a 5th big/insurance should we trade Sullinger or Olynyk later in the season.

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 08:38:43 PM »

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To further expand on our bigs next season, I would love to have the following:

PF-
Sullinger
Olynyk
Jerebko

C-
Rim Protector (either via draft or free agency)
Zeller
McGee (as a swing for the fences type of gamble)


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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 08:54:00 PM »

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Zeller is a back up center, he is what he is. He's not effective in every situation that's his main problem. I think Zeller has always been the odd man out. I feel the celtics need multiple big men, plus Zeller.

IMO we're going to see a shakeup at the power forward position next year. Bass may be here and signed to a reasonable contract.   

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 09:22:04 PM »

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Though I really expect a trade...

Sully/Datome at PF
KO/Zeller at C

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 09:23:09 PM »

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I like  Zeller .  I wouldn't trade the perfect backup center

Loyal, unafraid ,  looks straight ahead , doesn't complaint , isn't a head case or weirdo , not a thug..I believe he is smart too.

Professional NBA player .....like Bass

I like Cody s game too and Mason Plumlee ....guys who come to play ball.......not be whiners or thugs

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2015, 10:01:30 PM »

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I like zeller
But with our front court depth someone needs to go

Randolph is gone
Bass is gone
Zeller stays

And next year will be the year ainge decides to keep sully or olynyk
Which I think sully stays
One of them will be traded considering they are productive players on rookie contracts
But ainge needs to determine whether they are legitimate starters at the PF position

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Zeller has had the misfortune of starting for a team that refuses to start Isaiah Thomas.

Zeller is a pick-and-roll center.

Thomas is a pick-and-roll point guard.

Since Thomas arrived, Zeller has played 235 minutes.

Of those, he has shared the court with Thomas for just 88 of them. 

In the 147 minutes he has played with some combinations of Smart, Turner & Bradley as his guards, Zeller has the numbers:

FG% 44.4
eFG  44.4
TS% 45.5
PPP   0.96

In the 88 minutes he has played with Thomas as the PG:

FG% 51.9
eFG  51.9
TS% 55.4
PPP   1.09

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2015, 10:13:19 PM »

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I think CBS lives a big who can spread the floor thus Jerebko plays a lot to close out games.  Sully tried but no one really guarded his shot so he could not spread the floor but he sure launched them.

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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 01:52:56 AM »

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Where is the log jam? It looks to me like he is the only guy you could really say is a center. Even if we got Gasol or Cousins and kept everyone:

Cousins/Zeller/KO
Sully/Bass/JJ

injuries happen. foul trouble happens. Last time we had a "log jam" at the 5 we traded Perk for Green and everyone cried.