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Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2015, 02:09:48 PM »

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Olynyk's ability and skills have never been in question. He has real skills and has shown the ability to use them. What's gonna decide how far he gets in this league is going to be based on how assertive he can be.

KO is a match-up nightmare. There just aren't many bigs, especially centers that can realistically guard him. He has PG skills in a 7 foot body. But he has to be able to take advantage of that constantly, night in and night out for him to be at his best. With Sully out now, he has his chance. The next 5 weeks are crucial for him.

I liked the way he played last night. He missed almost all his shots and sure some of them were ugly, but he was driving to the hole and taking open shots. If he continues that, he'll be in good shape.

Certainly not a bust though. Worse case scenario he's just a role-playing stretch big. That's not a bust at #13

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2015, 02:16:35 PM »

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Bust.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2015, 04:57:55 PM »

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Was anyone surprised that he got more minutes than Zeller?
I thought it was because Stevens wanted to pull Davis & Asik away from the basket to lessen the impact of their shot-blocking defensively.

The ball movement was also much better with Olynyk on the court. Olynyk did a great job of keeping the ball moving and helping to expose NO's over-helping defense. Bass is a non-passer and Zeller a limited one. They wouldn't have been able to exploit this as well without Olynyk.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2015, 05:00:40 PM »

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The missed shots were rust. The rest of his game was normal.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2015, 05:26:34 PM »

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I like the Swede better.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2015, 06:06:23 PM »

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I think we r thinking bust  just by comparing him to the talent drafted behind him
Gorgui Dieng, greek freak,Dennis Schroeder,  mason plumlee, tin Hardaway jr , Andre Roberson and now rudy gobert

But he could be a solid bench player which I thought he was coming out of the draft
Also this draft was considered weak so it is not that bad that we got a bench player from it 

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2015, 06:11:27 PM »

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Olynyk's ability and skills have never been in question. He has real skills and has shown the ability to use them. What's gonna decide how far he gets in this league is going to be based on how assertive he can be.

KO is a match-up nightmare. There just aren't many bigs, especially centers that can realistically guard him. He has PG skills in a 7 foot body. But he has to be able to take advantage of that constantly, night in and night out for him to be at his best. With Sully out now, he has his chance. The next 5 weeks are crucial for him.

I liked the way he played last night. He missed almost all his shots and sure some of them were ugly, but he was driving to the hole and taking open shots. If he continues that, he'll be in good shape.

Certainly not a bust though. Worse case scenario he's just a role-playing stretch big. That's not a bust at #13

I don't think his skill set will get him that far,
I think he would be a bench stretch big in the future
Cuz when most people say a 7 footer shooting 3s they think dirk

But the difference between dirk and other shooting bigs is that dirk had the athleticism to drive it in and taking advantage of taking a big out yo the perimeter
Olynyk doesn't have the athleticism to do this and should be relegated to spot up shooting from the 3, post ups and the occasional drive in

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2015, 06:28:50 PM »

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i'm starting to lean heavily towards bust. but I usually give guys 3 yrs. before I write them off.

it just seems there's always some obstacle with KO that we're always waiting for him to "bounce back" from. then he does and then there's some other reason for why he's having no success. like "it wasn't a good match up", "going from the bench to starting and back to the bench is messing with him", "rust", etc.

after a while it all starts to sound like excuses instead of reasons. the simple way to rectify this is to play better.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2015, 06:29:55 PM »

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Like it or not, if we only qualify players taken in the top ten of the lottery as starters and exclude mid and late 1st rounders as anything but role players or off the bench guys. Then I ask, “Where will the rest of the starters for the other 20 teams come from?”

I think it’s reasonably fair to expect future starter aspirations for a player taken at #13. Of course not star or a building block, but defiantly an important piece of the puzzle.  I believe it’s fair to be called a bust if a player can’t reach solid starter status within a few years after being drafted.

However, it’s probably unfair to suggest the player “might” be a bust only two games out from an injury, and only in his second year.  Certainly not “Idiotic” as one of you said.  I’ll give you that. 

I guess I’m growing tired of defending KO for being soft.  I’d like to see him get more aggressive and snarl a bit.  Maybe, he’ll add more muscle this offseason?  All of these would be a big help to his confidence going forward.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2015, 06:34:49 PM »

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He was clearly getting great looks and being very aggressive.  They just didn't fall.  That's half the battle with him.  He clearly has talent.

I think Thomas and our new look is going to be great for him.  And last night he spaced the floor for us and passed really well.  Our offense is better with him out there.  I really like him with Jerebko too.
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Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2015, 06:48:01 PM »

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Are people still mad that Olynyk was still chosen over the future superstar Giannis?

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2015, 06:53:56 PM »

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Just saw the game yesterday now.  KO was a key player for the Celts. 

Some people here don't appreciate what this guy does on the floor. He is a top level "pick" setter.  Especially due to his size .  He is setting multiple picks on the offensive end, freeing guys after guys.

He was active on the defensive end also. He is closing "space" to prevent guys from having room to drive in

Right now due to lack of 10 pounds of muscle he can't do a better job around the post. But yesterday he fought Anthony Davis hard to deny him getting entry passes


Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2015, 06:56:39 PM »

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Kelly Olynyk is just rusty because he just came back from injury. He will be fine, he's good just be patient. He is only in his second year too.
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Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2015, 07:02:03 PM »

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I think Thomas and our new look is going to be great for him.  And last night he spaced the floor for us and passed really well.  Our offense is better with him out there.  I really like him with Jerebko too.
Yes, I really liked Jerebko and Olynyk together as well. I hope CBS gives those two more minutes alongside Isaiah Thomas. I think those three could have really good chemistry together.

Re: KO Rust or is he a Bust?
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2015, 07:04:58 PM »

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Just saw the game yesterday now.  KO was a key player for the Celts. 

Some people here don't appreciate what this guy does on the floor. He is a top level "pick" setter.  Especially due to his size .  He is setting multiple picks on the offensive end, freeing guys after guys.

He was active on the defensive end also. He is closing "space" to prevent guys from having room to drive in

Right now due to lack of 10 pounds of muscle he can't do a better job around the post. But yesterday he fought Anthony Davis hard to deny him getting entry passes

did you also notice in the 2nd half he started over zeller and as soon as he went to the bench we got the lead and extended it?