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Bass, Jonas, Crowder... What would you offer them?
« on: February 26, 2015, 02:03:54 PM »

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So from what i've been reading, we've all LOVED these 3 bargain-buy forwards. Unfortunately all three are on a potential last year of their contracts (Crowder has a qualifying option).
What would you guys offer each player in order to keep them?

Keep in mind the CBA minimums:
Bass currently $6.9Mill (10 yr exp): minimum $1,448,490
Jerebko currently $4.5Mill (5 yr exp): minimum $1,063,384
Crowder currently $900k (3yr exp): minimum $948,163
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Re: Bass, Jonas, Crowder... What would you offer them?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 02:10:27 PM »

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Re: Bass, Jonas, Crowder... What would you offer them?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 03:41:06 PM »

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It's tough, we no so little of how the team will look during the offseason and our potential to land players with a decent skill level. It's also difficult to answer since we've only seen Jonas really play in a couple of games.
But if I had to make decisions today, I guess I'd sign Bass to a year if he'd except it, two if he demanded it. Probably around 3 mill a year.
Jonas I'd stay firm at a one year 3 mill. And Crowder I'd show the door. Crowder isn't a bad player, but for what he brings I think you can find better players for cheaper money.
Keep in mind I'm biased towards players who have been here for awhile and I think there have been times when Bass has been let down by the Celtics organization in terms of playing time and warming the bench without any real reason.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2015, 03:49:08 PM »

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It's tough, we no so little of how the team will look during the offseason and our potential to land players with a decent skill level. It's also difficult to answer since we've only seen Jonas really play in a couple of games.
But if I had to make decisions today, I guess I'd sign Bass to a year if he'd except it, two if he demanded it. Probably around 3 mill a year.
Jonas I'd stay firm at a one year 3 mill. And Crowder I'd show the door. Crowder isn't a bad player, but for what he brings I think you can find better players for cheaper money.
Keep in mind I'm biased towards players who have been here for awhile and I think there have been times when Bass has been let down by the Celtics organization in terms of playing time and warming the bench without any real reason.

He's making the minimum right now.  The list of players making less than him who are better than him is at or near zero.

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 03:57:03 PM »

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If you use that logic, than we should stick with Phil Pressey this off season too right?
 
I'm still hoping the Celtics go after players who are better than Pressey and Crowder.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 03:59:57 PM »

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If you use that logic, than we should stick with Phil Pressey this off season too right?
 
I'm still hoping the Celtics go after players who are better than Pressey and Crowder.
I'm not sure what "this logic" is. Pressey is not an NBA player. He probably won't sign another NBA contract. Crowder is a productive player who will likely command a raise on his next NBA contract.

But yes, we can certainly go after Blake Griffin.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 04:07:34 PM »

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Urg. Was trying to make a point. Crowder minimum contract. Pressey minimum contract. The previous poster stated that because Crowder was making the minimum that there were few, if any, players that were better "for the money". So I stated that if you follow his logic out to the end, that Pressey another player who is playing for the minimum, must also have few players beneath him, like Crowder. Both players making the minimum. It was a joke of sorts.
Obviously Pressey won't be in the league next year, Crowder will in all likelihood be with a club. Personally, I think he's over rated, but I do appreciate the intangibles. I just wish he wouldn't shoot so much. Of course I feel that way about Phil too.

Re: Bass, Jonas, Crowder... What would you offer them?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 04:11:02 PM »

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Crowder = $3 million per annum, 2 year deal.

I do not want to keep Bass or Jerebko unless one of Sully or Olynyk is traded. I like both players but there is just no role for them here now with Sully and Olynyk already here. Boston needs a center. Not another rotation caliber PF. 

The Celtics will need to sign a third string PF to play behind Sully and Olynyk but that player should only cost a minimum contract ... and both Bass and Jerebko are too good to accept such an offer (both in terms of finances and available playing time).   

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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 04:15:39 PM »

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Bass is the more starter caliber player, but Crowder is the more valuable player.  If Crowder can defend three positions and make enough threes so that you can't leave him alone on the perimeter, that's the sort of reserve that playoff teams should chase.

I'd be willing to give Crowder enough money to outbid teams that can only offer him the taxpayer MLE.  I'd be happy to bring Bass back for more than the BAE if Sullinger or Olynyk is traded and the team still has need for a backup PF.  I'd offer Jerebko more than the minimum, but I'd want it to be a relatively short deal so that he can be traded.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 04:16:45 PM »

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These guys will get signed only after we go after the all-star types on the FA market. If we swing and miss on everybody, then I can't imagine we will offer anything more than one year deals so we can try again next summer. Cap flexibility is imperative for a crappy team.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 04:18:47 PM »

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I'd first offer (pressy, sully, KO and Wallace expiring deal) plus 2 first round picks for DC Cousins.

Smart/IT
Bradley/Young
Turner/Jae
Bass/Jonas
DC/Zeller


Then shop for a bigger scoring SG like Butler, maybe kick the tires on the Bulls sqaud and see if
 



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Re: Bass, Jonas, Crowder... What would you offer them?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 04:21:39 PM »

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Urg. Was trying to make a point. Crowder minimum contract. Pressey minimum contract. The previous poster stated that because Crowder was making the minimum that there were few, if any, players that were better "for the money". So I stated that if you follow his logic out to the end, that Pressey another player who is playing for the minimum, must also have few players beneath him, like Crowder. Both players making the minimum. It was a joke of sorts.
Obviously Pressey won't be in the league next year, Crowder will in all likelihood be with a club. Personally, I think he's over rated, but I do appreciate the intangibles. I just wish he wouldn't shoot so much. Of course I feel that way about Phil too.

What part of Crowder's game is overrated? His shooting percentage is at 45, which means he is taking just the right amount of shots.

Sign Bass to a 1 year mid level,
Jerebko too early to tell, but most likely letting him walk we have Sullinger and if Bass is staying
Crowder 4 year 6mil/yr, this is a no brainer, he could potentially break out as a player soon like Draymond Green or Jimmy Butler, Defensive SFs with improving offense.  Even if he doesnt break out 6mil/yr for a solid glue/energy guy off the bench is worth it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 04:36:11 PM »

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I'd keep Jae and the Swede, and let Bass go.

Bass is too expensive, and he doesn't shoot threes.

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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 05:16:03 PM »

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I'd first offer (pressy, sully, KO and Wallace expiring deal) plus 2 first round picks for DC Cousins.

Smart/IT
Bradley/Young
Turner/Jae
Bass/Jonas
DC/Zeller


Then shop for a bigger scoring SG like Butler, maybe kick the tires on the Bulls sqaud and see if
 

THIS.
I really want to like Sully and KO, constanyl holding out that they will turn into all stars or borderline ones BUT sully's lack of weight control and health will prevent that and KO is missing  soemthing mentally to push him..... I would not think twice about trading both of them for Boogie or Butler......be great to get both.

Also not sure bout Turner, i like what he does but almost feel he is too ball dominate and once smart develops....we will need a scoring SF instead of a point SF...right?

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 05:19:52 PM »

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I think Danny would resign all of them if they were cap-friendly deals that were easy to move, if necessary.