Am I the only one who doesn't understand the prince deal?

[piercetruth34]

What is the benefit of consolidating trade exceptions vs having 2 trade exceptions that equal the same amount?

[e4e5sesame]

Players are people, how you treat them matters. Just look at the Goran Dragic situation.

I think this is the main reason.  Danny has really developed a reputation of being a GM that takes care of his players, whether they're just passing through or they've been here a while.

People undervalue how much this is worth in free agency.  If a player has a choice between signing with a Suns FO that promises and fails to deliver on role/PT/touches, or a Celtics FO that goes the extra mile to find a home for their vets, they might decide to brave the winters up here.

[e4e5sesame]

What is the benefit of consolidating trade exceptions vs having 2 trade exceptions that equal the same amount?

Because you can't combine TPs to absorb a single contract.  $7.7m TP means we can absorb a $7.7m player.

[piercetruth34]

I agree that ainge doesn't just make trades for the sake of it.  That is kind of my point though.  I have no issue with the deal and think I get it in theory but just looking for a more detailed description.  But Ainge definitely treats his players with respect and also makes trades with the bigger picture in mind. He doesn't just deal for the sake of it and finds the best avenue for all parties involved. I've always known that though and gotten mad at people who don't lol.

He is ultimately going to do what is best for the Celtics though.  He isn't going to help people out that much.   So  there has to be some reason from our perspective why we made it and I think people explained that anyways.

I just am not that high on either player we got.  I can see what people are saying about Jerebko.  He could be a fit as an end of bench guy.  I also understand the trade exception stuff.  I get the deal.  We were trading Tayshaun prince and he didn't want to be here and he didn't really fit us and Ainge got what fit. I just am not sure how this is going to help us longterm but if ainge can turn these picks and trade exceptions into something big I hope so.

[csfansince60s]

Unlike some in this thread, I don't believe Datome is long for this roster.  Yes, Ainge was interested two years ago, but you can't ignore the complete lack of production Datome has shown at the NBA level.

And this supports your belief: from the front page "Additional Trade Details" article:

Bulpett is reporting that the Celtics may waive or buy out Gigi Datome.  So much for the stories about Ainge being a big fan of is.  Maybe the NBA was just too much of a leap for him from the Italian league.

Hope that you guys are wrong. Gonna need all hands on deck with Sully out (maybe for the rest of the year), and no harm letting Gigi play and see if we have anything.

[outflip50]

What is the benefit of consolidating trade exceptions vs having 2 trade exceptions that equal the same amount?

Because you can't combine TPs to absorb a single contract.  $7.7m TP means we can absorb a $7.7m player.

It also take the two old ones and pushes out the expiration date for a year

[Asher77]

With Sully out and KO in recovery we needed Jerebko.

This guy is 27 and has played his role of bench stretch 4 to perfection the last 2 years. He shot .419 from 3 last season and is at .368 so far this year. He was more of an inside player his first 2 seasons with more min and was not that unproductive. He was just not needed in that role with Monroe and Drummond around.

He might surprise us in a revitalized role on the C's given min and a chance to pound it a bit inside. We are height starved around here and you must assume JJ will be better in this his 5th year and in his prime than he was as a rookie. I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt that it was the system in Detroit holding him back from being a more complete player.

[piercetruth34]

What is the benefit of consolidating trade exceptions vs having 2 trade exceptions that equal the same amount?

Because you can't combine TPs to absorb a single contract.  $7.7m TP means we can absorb a $7.7m player.

It also take the two old ones and pushes out the expiration date for a year

Ok that makes sense then and good information to have.

[Eja117]

Players are people, how you treat them matters. Just look at the Goran Dragic situation.

This is a great point. It reminds me of what happened with Kris Kardashian last year. It worked out pretty well for both sides. This is a little like that

[D.o.s.]

Players are people, how you treat them matters. Just look at the Goran Dragic situation.

This is a great point. It reminds me of what happened with Kris Kardashian last year. It worked out pretty well for both sides. This is a little like that

Agreed a million times over. It's just like any other job in that respect -- you have 30 odd employers that are asking you to do the same thing, and you're going to spend the majority of your on-clock time on the road. How else would you evaluate something like this?

I agree that ainge doesn't just make trades for the sake of it.  That is kind of my point though.  I have no issue with the deal and think I get it in theory but just looking for a more detailed description.  But Ainge definitely treats his players with respect and also makes trades with the bigger picture in mind. He doesn't just deal for the sake of it and finds the best avenue for all parties involved. I've always known that though and gotten mad at people who don't lol.

He is ultimately going to do what is best for the Celtics though.  He isn't going to help people out that much.   So  there has to be some reason from our perspective why we made it and I think people explained that anyways.

I just am not that high on either player we got.  I can see what people are saying about Jerebko.  He could be a fit as an end of bench guy.  I also understand the trade exception stuff.  I get the deal.  We were trading Tayshaun prince and he didn't want to be here and he didn't really fit us and Ainge got what fit. I just am not sure how this is going to help us longterm but if ainge can turn these picks and trade exceptions into something big I hope so.

The picks and the trade exception will certainly help us more than the Ghost of Tayshaun Prince.

[LooseCannon]

There's really no need to think much deeper than seeing this as a straight-up salary dump of a player who was a buy-out candidate and getting back a player or two who, unlike Prince, have at least a mild chance of being on the Celtics bench next season.  This deal gets done even if trade exceptions aren't involved.

[Kane3387]

Trade exception

[piercetruth34]

We were trading Tayshaun Prince I guess it comes down to.  We could make out with these trade exceptions.  Jerebko may even make our final roster.  It could end up being absolutely nothing. Better than having Tayshaun Prince I guess who had absolutely no upside with us.  I don't know if what we got is certainly going to help us but Ainge has worked wonders before with this stuff.

IF we turn all these trade exceptions, Gerald Wallace and draft picks into Demarcus Cousins or something then why not.

[mahcus smaht]

I think Ainge made the trade for a few reasons

1. Adds a 7.7 mil trade exception. I never thought much of these and they arent always valuable ( I believe Golden State let a 8 mil + one expire) but Danny turned the Pierce one into Zeller and Thomas so this could grab us a decent piece or two this summer
2. Adds some front court depth, with Sully down we are very thin at the 4/5. Jerebko can come in and give us 15-20 minutes a night.
3.  I believe when Prince came, Danny talked to him and said effectively: "If you play hard for the next month, we promise we will either move you to a playoff team or buy you out" As Prince was a model citizen Danny had to move him or else he could go to the Clips which would hurt the Clips pick
3b. As someone mentioned, Ainge has earned a lot of capital around the league with agents and GMs, he has moved most of his guys to contenders/ good places for them and has helped out several GMs in the process.

[Moranis]

Jerekbo is 27, I wouldn't call him young, but he is fine in a Scalabrine type role. 

Datome is pretty worthless as a NBA player.  He barely plays for a reason.  He is terrible.  He is also 27 not 19, so I don't think there is much growth potential there.