Structuring an offer for J. Butler in the offseason

[Msimonetta2]

Can anyone share their insights on how we could structure an offer this summer that would make it uncomfortable for Chicago to match?

[greg683x]

i dont think we have a shot.  I cant see Chicago letting him go in any scenario, unless theyre in some kind of cap trouble Im unaware of.

Id love to have him though

[Msimonetta2]

Yeah I have read a little about teams offering a c. Parsons type deal, shorter with a player option in year three, trade kicker.....was not sure how this would put the Bulls in a bad spot?

[saltlover]

Chicago will match anything, almost assuredly.  The best option would be to make it an option after year 1 so he could sign a new contract after the cap goes up.  I'd still bet Chicago matches, but that would be the only thing that could give them pause in my opinion.

[hwangjini_1]

Chicago will match anything, almost assuredly.  The best option would be to make it an option after year 1 so he could sign a new contract after the cap goes up.  I'd still bet Chicago matches, but that would be the only thing that could give them pause in my opinion.

yes, but by the same token it might very well give the celtics pause as well.

however, this is very much the sort of deal players in butler's position will probably be seeking - short term contracts that allow them to jump into the new salary pool as soon as possible.

i am curious how ainge will navigate these waters.

[greece66]

A good manager gets your team a good player before he becomes famous.
Danny is now looking for the guy who will be the new J.Butler in two years time lol

[droopdog7]

Last thin we want to do is overpay guys.  Butler is good, by he isn't a franchise guy.  And we'd need to pay him franchise money.

[Evantime34]

I would be fine paying him the max. No one is signing with us unless we have the highest offer. I'd rather overpay and add a quality player than just have the cap space. The salary cap is blowing up in two years so this summer's max could be a bargain in 2017.

[LooseCannon]

I would be fine paying him the max. No one is signing with us unless we have the highest offer. I'd rather overpay and add a quality player than just have the cap space. The salary cap is blowing up in two years so this summer's max could be a bargain in 2017.

For Butler, the max will be 25% of the salary cap.  It's very reasonable to believe that there will be multiple teams offering Butler the max (Butler is rumored to be one of the players who will be targeted by the Knicks, but the Bulls reportedly have said they will match any offer), so the Celtics would probably need Butler to like Brad Stevens and the direction of the team for there to be a chance of him coming to Boston.  His college teammate Jae Crowder might be instrumental in convincing him, if it works out.  You'd probably also need some turmoil in Chicago that leads to the Bulls preferring to work out a sign-and-trade instead of matching an offer sheet. 

[Evantime34]

I would be fine paying him the max. No one is signing with us unless we have the highest offer. I'd rather overpay and add a quality player than just have the cap space. The salary cap is blowing up in two years so this summer's max could be a bargain in 2017.

For Butler, the max will be 25% of the salary cap.  It's very reasonable to believe that there will be multiple teams offering Butler the max (Butler is rumored to be one of the players who will be targeted by the Knicks, but the Bulls reportedly have said they will match any offer), so the Celtics would probably need Butler to like Brad Stevens and the direction of the team for there to be a chance of him coming to Boston.  His college teammate Jae Crowder might be instrumental in convincing him, if it works out.  You'd probably also need some turmoil in Chicago that leads to the Bulls preferring to work out a sign-and-trade instead of matching an offer sheet.

I wouldn't be surprised if Monroe, Butler, Green, and Kawhi all get big money. There are so many teams with cap space this summer that a lot of players are going to get paid.

[mr. dee]

The last thing I want is another Ben Gordon. Overpaid good role players. He can be a championship piece, but not the main franchise guy. I'd try to acquire him, only if we already have other pieces to contend.

[BornReady]

Butler is good but I wouldn't want to overpay a guy while we would be a fringe playoff team

Plus we could always draft a wing with star potential next year

[chambers]

I think there are two questions that you should ask yourself with Jimmy Butler.

1) Is he going to improve even further and if so, what is that ceiling?

2) Although he's not a franchise player, would he become (or is he already) good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship team; ie Ray Allen on the 2008 team.

if the answer is yes to both of the above, you'd have to be seriously considering offering a max contract to him.

[SHAQATTACK]

I think NY Knicks will out bid everyone .  They will max him or at least make Bulls do that.....

I can't see Bulls matching what Lakers , NY will offer .

Danny is waiting on a BiG man to throw his major assets on I believe .

I luv his game , good guy too.....unless you max him ....I don't think he ll be any cheaper .

His game will mesh with many teams ...un like Stevenson or a Rondo.

[kozlodoev]

Can anyone share their insights on how we could structure an offer this summer that would make it uncomfortable for Chicago to match?

Can't structure a max offer :p