Kelly Olynyk is soft.

[clover]

Kelly is who he is.  Moments of greatness, separated by long stretches of weakness, tentativeness, indecisiveness.  His recent poor foul shooting reflects the lack of confidence he has of late. It also shows in his 3 point shot, which has gotten flatter, and its completion percentage has dropped.

Starting to doubt he is going to be more than he already is. He is 23, and while that is young, his motor and effort have been established, and can't recall a guy who suddenly became more driven and confident after that age. I'm sure others may have some good examples, which would be great to hear.

Gerald green got it at like 27

Gerald Green specifically stands out in my mind as the latest bloomer I've seen in 30 years.

Bigs are traditionally slower to bloom than smaller players. 7-footers tend to take the longest to get their games together.

[Celtics18]

Kelly is who he is.  Moments of greatness, separated by long stretches of weakness, tentativeness, indecisiveness.  His recent poor foul shooting reflects the lack of confidence he has of late. It also shows in his 3 point shot, which has gotten flatter, and its completion percentage has dropped.

Starting to doubt he is going to be more than he already is. He is 23, and while that is young, his motor and effort have been established, and can't recall a guy who suddenly became more driven and confident after that age. I'm sure others may have some good examples, which would be great to hear.

One thing I'm not too worried about long-term is his outside shooting ability.  I feel fairly confident that this kid can shoot the ball.  He's in a prolonged slump right now from deep.  Once he breaks out of that slump, it's going to help his confidence tremendously. 

As far as being driven goes, I don't see any indication that Kelly Olynyk isn't driven to excel as a basketball player.  As for the confidence issue, I can't think of very many players that don't go through dips in confidence at one point or another.  This is, of course, particularly true for young players who are still learning how to play the pro game. 

[rollie mass]

you got to be kidding, ever here of sophmore jinx,kelly was known for soft touch and the rim being friendly seems to have betrayed in video,big baby reversed on him pretty quick for  a guy that big and once he got position who could move his bulk. My sons shot went flat because of increased vertical,maybe the gym is throwing him off,maybe he had christmas blahs ,at least he is getting to hoop and boxed that guy out on offensive boards -did you edit out his aggressive dunks-considering all that is going on kelly's doing fine

[PickNRoll]

you got to be kidding, ever here of sophmore jinx,kelly was known for soft touch and the rim being friendly seems to have betrayed in video,big baby reversed on him pretty quick for  a guy that big and once he got position who could move his bulk. My sons shot went flat because of increased vertical,maybe the gym is throwing him off,maybe he had christmas blahs ,at least he is getting to hoop and boxed that guy out on offensive boards -did you edit out his aggressive dunks-considering all that is going on kelly's doing fine

That clip was obviously only negative plays.  To be fair, you can make anyone look bad with a clip like that, but that's a fair number of "soft" plays that I saw just skimming for 15 minutes.

[ScoobyDoo]

Kelly is one of the more aggressive, "consistent effort" guys we have on this team. If any big on this team is soft is Sullinger taking first place - he pouts, he hasn't had the mental fortitude or discipline to transform his body - at all - and I don't see him humping it up and down the court on every play.

Olynyk sprints back and forth on offense and defense as hard as anyone on the team and he's a seven footer. If Sully threw his body around in the paint as hard as Olynyk "tries" to he'd be a 20 point 10 rebound wrecking ball every night. But he doesn't and he isn't.

I think Kelly gets a really unjustified "soft" label simply because he's not built like a banger and doesn't play like one.

He made "major" strides with both his body and his aggression level from rookie to sophomore year - will he be any "tougher" or "less soft" if he comes back next year 15 pounds stronger and can hold his own a little better down low?

[Eddie20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI822HpKRIg

This is an awful video. Not sure what it means other than Olynyk misses shots and has been both blocked and stripped too. Watching a lowlight video of Bird vs a highlight reel of Lohaus and the latter would look like the far superior player.

[Rosco917]

2013 draft has to be re-examined, Danny passed on Gobert and Dieng to name a few, to draft Kelly Olynyk. A non athletic, slow, power forward, when he just got through drafting Sully another non athletic, slow, power forward the year before in 2012.
If he envisioned Kelly as being a center, man did he ever miss the mark. Not one scout thought Kelly O would become an effective center in the pro's.

I like Danny, and I think he's doing what needs to be done. But I never understood the thought process of drafting both of these PF's, with the same faults. Not when there was a chance we could have had Gobert manning the middle.

[PickNRoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI822HpKRIg

This is an awful video. Not sure what it means other than Olynyk misses shots and has been both blocked and stripped too. Watching a lowlight video of Bird vs a highlight reel of Lohaus and the latter would look like the far superior player.

I'm saying that you can make one of these every game.  He's a weak finisher and he does not "play tough" with the ball as Stevens would say.  He's "soft", as it were.

[SHAQATTACK]

I don't think he understands winning .

"HATE". Thy opponent


When I played sports .....game started ....I was your mortal enemy .......and if I played less than manly ....my old man was scary mad afterward.

To have that much skill.....he could lead the team in most stats .....if he played with DIRKs intensity .

Kelly could stand to celebrate a little after a dunk .....beat his chest once in while ....stare down a few players...

Instead he looks like he wants to go smoke a doobie .

[PickNRoll]

I don't attribute it to effort, I think he's just slow.

[bigsky]

I'm for working Kelly at the 3. Can't hurt.

[inverselock]

I think the hippie look throws people off.   If he was a skinhead with tats everyone would say he's a phsyco who fouls too much.   Also people confuse lack skill and physicality with effort.

[Tr1boy]

2013 draft has to be re-examined, Danny passed on Gobert and Dieng to name a few, to draft Kelly Olynyk. A non athletic, slow, power forward, when he just got through drafting Sully another non athletic, slow, power forward the year before in 2012.
If he envisioned Kelly as being a center, man did he ever miss the mark. Not one scout thought Kelly O would become an effective center in the pro's.

I like Danny, and I think he's doing what needs to be done. But I never understood the thought process of drafting both of these PF's, with the same faults. Not when there was a chance we could have had Gobert manning the middle.

What has exactly Gobert done to help the Jazz? I like Gobert but just bc he can grab 17 rebounds does not mean he is a better player than KO.   Dieng is not that good imo. Reaction is slow

It's too bad Mason Plumlee didn't have a jump shot bc he would beenthe only guy I would of taken over KO around the range we were picking

Expect KO to come next season in even better shape. Have more strength. Also it's getting closer to new contract time.   He will be better

[chambers]

2013 draft has to be re-examined, Danny passed on Gobert and Dieng to name a few, to draft Kelly Olynyk. A non athletic, slow, power forward, when he just got through drafting Sully another non athletic, slow, power forward the year before in 2012.
If he envisioned Kelly as being a center, man did he ever miss the mark. Not one scout thought Kelly O would become an effective center in the pro's.

I like Danny, and I think he's doing what needs to be done. But I never understood the thought process of drafting both of these PF's, with the same faults. Not when there was a chance we could have had Gobert manning the middle.

What has exactly Gobert done to help the Jazz? I like Gobert but just bc he can grab 17 rebounds does not mean he is a better player than KO.   Dieng is not that good imo. Reaction is slow

It's too bad Mason Plumlee didn't have a jump shot bc he would beenthe only guy I would of taken over KO around the range we were picking

Gobert is an elite defensive anchor now. Watch a few Jazz games if you get the chance.
He disrupts shots around the rim like Hibbert and has amazing timing and co-ordination  for someone that tall. His PER is the 4th best for NBA centers too. He's starting to develop on the offensive end now and his footwork is very good. He's 22 now, by age 24 he should be fighting Drummond for being the best defensive big man in the NBA.

[Tr1boy]

2013 draft has to be re-examined, Danny passed on Gobert and Dieng to name a few, to draft Kelly Olynyk. A non athletic, slow, power forward, when he just got through drafting Sully another non athletic, slow, power forward the year before in 2012.
If he envisioned Kelly as being a center, man did he ever miss the mark. Not one scout thought Kelly O would become an effective center in the pro's.

I like Danny, and I think he's doing what needs to be done. But I never understood the thought process of drafting both of these PF's, with the same faults. Not when there was a chance we could have had Gobert manning the middle.

What has exactly Gobert done to help the Jazz? I like Gobert but just bc he can grab 17 rebounds does not mean he is a better player than KO.   Dieng is not that good imo. Reaction is slow

It's too bad Mason Plumlee didn't have a jump shot bc he would beenthe only guy I would of taken over KO around the range we were picking

Gobert is an elite defensive anchor now. Watch a few Jazz games if you get the chance.
He disrupts shots around the rim like Hibbert and has amazing timing and co-ordination  for someone that tall. His PER is the 4th best for NBA centers too. He's starting to develop on the offensive end now and his footwork is very good. He's 22 now, by age 24 he should be fighting Drummond for being the best defensive big man in the NBA.

So i guess 27-26 other teams made a mistake bypassing on Gobert.  Gobert is still on the thin side.  Guys like Dhoward can muscle shots in.  Offensively he is more of a crash the net type of player right now. You are not going to run plays for him in crucial moments of the game

If Gobert can add 10-15 pounds of muscle without losing his athleticism/quickness, then yeah, he will be a big steal.   But i'ts likely not realistic he will be able to add the pounds and still be as quick as he is now

I like Gobert and would not mind picking him up. But he is far from perfect