Inside the Sixers: Questions surround Embiid ( 300 LBs)

[LarBrd33]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

[hpantazo]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

[LarBrd33]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Sure it's an easy narrative.  I'm gonna guess embiid will be fine.  I'd probably trade Marcus smart and our 2015 1st (top 3 protected) for him right now.

[csfansince60s]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Very true.

And even if they keep in shape as Embiid apparently was for both the stress fractures in both his foot and his back in college, some people are especially prone to them due to inherent bio mechanical and anatomical abnormalities as well as biochemical issues such as calcium deficiencies.

For Embiids sake, you hope Oden isn't the final, apt comparison. Seems like a nice kid.

For Hinkie and the Seventy Stinkers, well maybe they just outsmarted themselves this time. Who knows. The basketball gods may be frowning upon them, turning their karma into that female dog.

[BleedGreen1989]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

LB...the eternal optimist for other teams. The eternal pessimist for the Boston Celtics.

[LarBrd33]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

LB...the eternal optimist for other teams. The eternal pessimist for the Boston Celtics.

Nah I can just spot a BS click-bait article when I see it.  He was 280 pounds when he was hurt during pre-draft workout.  In October, an article came out that he was down to 270 pounds and had "lost 10 pounds".   Now it says he's 300 pounds.  Who cares.  He can only work in an antigravity machine and he's probably still dealing with the fact his 13 year old brother died.  Guys that size can drop 30 pounds by taking a dump.   

Here he is a couple days ago



It's an easy narrative to compare him to Greg Oden... especially with Wiggins going off.  But Embiid was widely seen as the best prospect in the draft.   

Once he's healthy and can play basketball, that weight will come off rapidly.  I think that kid is going to be great. 

I hope if the 76ers land Okafor in the draft, we can somehow convince them to trade us Embiid, Noel or Okafor. IT doesn't make sense for them to have all three. 

[hpantazo]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

LB...the eternal optimist for other teams. The eternal pessimist for the Boston Celtics.

Nah I can just spot a BS click-bait article when I see it.  He was 280 pounds when he was hurt during pre-draft workout.  In October, an article came out that he was down to 270 pounds and had "lost 10 pounds".   Now it says he's 300 pounds.  Who cares.  He can only work in an antigravity machine and he's probably still dealing with the fact his 13 year old brother died.  Guys that size can drop 30 pounds by taking a dump.   

Here he is a couple days ago



It's an easy narrative to compare him to Greg Oden... especially with Wiggins going off.  But Embiid was widely seen as the best prospect in the draft.   

Once he's healthy and can play basketball, that weight will come off rapidly.  I think that kid is going to be great. 

I hope if the 76ers land Okafor in the draft, we can somehow convince them to trade us Embiid, Noel or Okafor. IT doesn't make sense for them to have all three.

For one, he was not "widely seen as the best prospect" no one was. It was a toss up between Wiggins and Parker, with Embiid 3rd. Second, he has legit injury concerns. Big men with stress fractures don't usually last ling in the league, it's much more of a concern than his weight and attitude. When you add weight and attitude issues, that's taking it to a whole other level. If the celtics get a pick around 4-5 in the next draft, I would have to think hard before taking a risk to trade it for Embiid.

[Eja117]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Sure it's an easy narrative.  I'm gonna guess embiid will be fine.  I'd probably trade Marcus smart and our 2015 1st (top 3 protected) for him right now.

Woah woah woah. Let's not all lose our minds now.

We get that he's on your fantasy team and all, but let's not go nuts.

[LarBrd33]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Sure it's an easy narrative.  I'm gonna guess embiid will be fine.  I'd probably trade Marcus smart and our 2015 1st (top 3 protected) for him right now.

Woah woah woah. Let's not all lose our minds now.

We get that he's on your fantasy team and all, but let's not go nuts.

Woah woah woah... let's think about this.  How often do you get an opportunity to land a superstar big man prospect?

I'd gladly trade Smart + our 2015 1st as long as it's not a top 3 pick.   Neither is likely to end up being an impact player on the level of Joel Embiid.

I bet Danny'd do it too

[hpantazo]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Sure it's an easy narrative.  I'm gonna guess embiid will be fine.  I'd probably trade Marcus smart and our 2015 1st (top 3 protected) for him right now.

Woah woah woah. Let's not all lose our minds now.

We get that he's on your fantasy team and all, but let's not go nuts.

Woah woah woah... let's think about this.  How often do you get an opportunity to land a superstar big man prospect?

I'd gladly trade Smart + our 2015 1st as long as it's not a top 3 pick.   Neither is likely to end up being an impact player on the level of Joel Embiid.

I bet Danny'd do it too

I wouldn't even trade our 2015 1st for him straight up, never mind adding Smart to that. Embiid has legit injury concerns.

[jpotter33]

That's the problem with the 76er's type of tanking. When Luc Mbah a Moute is your veteran leader, it does not bode well for young players' maturity and development. We at least have Gerald Wallace and had Rondo, Green, etc.

On another note, did anyone actually read the article? I was about to blast him with Sully references, but literally the only thing this kid can do right now is walk. In my (admittedly limited) medical knowledge, it's not too far a stretch to assume that, with the necessary caloric intake of a 7-footer, combined with only walking for exercise, he would put on weight.

I don't see why a 7-footer would have a necessary caloric intake that so outstripped his physical activity any more than the rest of us would.

Let's not forget the cultural aspects. Switching to a Western diet high in carbs, fats, and overall calories from a much more modest diet will be a big change for anyone. Sure, he's had three years to acclimate to our diet, but he was playing ball the whole time those three years. If he's eating just like he was when he was playing ball, then he necessarily won't be burning off those extra calories with limited exercise ability.

[Nerf DPOY]

I wonder if Embiid would still go before Nurkic. I'd probably choose Nurkic as of right now.

[hpantazo]

I wonder if Embiid would still go before Nurkic. I'd probably choose Nurkic as of right now.

I'm still upset we didn't trade up and take Nurkic

[Eja117]

I think the media wants to compare him to oden. 

Embiid will be fine.

There is a much longer list than Oden. Just to name a few:

Andrew Bynum
Sam Bowie
Yao Ming
Bill Walton
Ralph Sampson
Rik Smits
Arvidas Sabonis
Brook Lopez

Big men who don't/can't stay in shape are prone to career ending injuries from their size.

Sure it's an easy narrative.  I'm gonna guess embiid will be fine.  I'd probably trade Marcus smart and our 2015 1st (top 3 protected) for him right now.

Woah woah woah. Let's not all lose our minds now.

We get that he's on your fantasy team and all, but let's not go nuts.

Woah woah woah... let's think about this.  How often do you get an opportunity to land a superstar big man prospect?

I'd gladly trade Smart + our 2015 1st as long as it's not a top 3 pick.   Neither is likely to end up being an impact player on the level of Joel Embiid.

I bet Danny'd do it too

Gotta see him play basketball first

[LarBrd33]

Whatever.  We'll see what happens.    Everything I read said that he was widely seen as "by far" the best prospect leading up to the draft.  As many scouts said, "it's not even close".   They were comparing him to Hakeem seemingly without sarcasm.  It seemed like an insane stretch, but the same scouts who were saying "Andre Drummond has a CHANCE to be a bigger Amare with less offense" were the same people who were saying "Embiid is the next Hakeem". 

He's got a chance to be a game changer on both ends of the floor.  A dominant defensive and offensive player. 

It will be interesting to see what happens.   I admittedly don't follow College ball.  Folks have told me that the top 4 guys in the 2015 draft are good, but would go below the top 5 guys taken in 2014.  I've read multiple multiple places that Embiid is a superior prospect to Okafor.   

Superstar big man prospects are extremely rare.  Maybe Smart + a pick outside the top 3 is too much to give up.  Dunno.   I guess it depends how high you are on the depth of the 2015 draft and Marcus Smart's potential.