Trade up in draft?

[byennie]

Let's assume we're picking in the 4-8 range. Obviously we're looking for quality over quantity at some point with all of our picks and players.

Further suppose we want Okafor, and see him as the franchise center. Would we trade up? What would be the cost?

#4, a future 1st, and a future 2nd?

Would you do it?

[Afam]

Yes.

[Csfan1984]

From 4-7 probably no as Towns, Mudiay, Porzingis, Russell* and Johnson is available all look good. At 8, hell yes.

[jonaslopes]

Don't waste your time dreaming. No team will trade one of the first three picks. Trade up #11 to #8, maybe #9 to #6, #8 to #5, that's right. But not a top three pick. Wishful thinking won't help us here. Just forget it.

[LooseCannon]

#4 and both Brooklyn picks might not be enough to get the #1 pick.  It depends on how much the team with the top pick values who they think is the best player in the draft.  A team that thinks that there is a player who will be better than Okafor who will also be available at #4 will trade down.  A team that thinks that Okafor is a franchise player will never trade down.

[HomerSapien]

Depending on how things work out, I'd actually consider trading down in the right circumstances.  For example, if we end up with pick #4, and we could somehow swing a trade that lands us #6 and #9 or something like that and enables us to draft both D'Angelo Russell (who I'm starting to fall in love with), and Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is) I'd consider it.  Obviously that is a very specific circumstance that would require a lot of luck in terms of our draft positions as well as other teams, but that 2 player combo is one I'm intrigued by.

I don't think it is very probable that we could actually trade up into the top 3.

[Nerf DPOY]

Depending on how things work out, I'd actually consider trading down in the right circumstances.  For example, if we end up with pick #4, and we could somehow swing a trade that lands us #6 and #9 or something like that and enables us to draft both D'Angelo Russell (who I'm starting to fall in love with), and Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is) I'd consider it.  Obviously that is a very specific circumstance that would require a lot of luck in terms of our draft positions as well as other teams, but that 2 player combo is one I'm intrigued by.

I don't think it is very probable that we could actually trade up into the top 3.

It's funny, but I was daydreaming of a way to land both of those guys specifically yesterday. We really need to get lucky and have the Clipps crumble if we are to have a chance of putting together a package (outside of dealing next year's picks) to move up and get Turner. I like the idea of Russell and Smart as a back court tandem similar to Dragic and Bledsoe, with Russell being the Dragic of the two.

[HomerSapien]

Depending on how things work out, I'd actually consider trading down in the right circumstances.  For example, if we end up with pick #4, and we could somehow swing a trade that lands us #6 and #9 or something like that and enables us to draft both D'Angelo Russell (who I'm starting to fall in love with), and Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is) I'd consider it.  Obviously that is a very specific circumstance that would require a lot of luck in terms of our draft positions as well as other teams, but that 2 player combo is one I'm intrigued by.

I don't think it is very probable that we could actually trade up into the top 3.

It's funny, but I was daydreaming of a way to land both of those guys specifically yesterday. We really need to get lucky and have the Clipps crumble if we are to have a chance of putting together a package (outside of dealing next year's picks) to move up and get Turner. I like the idea of Russell and Smart as a back court tandem similar to Dragic and Bledsoe, with Russell being the Dragic of the two.

Yes, I like that backcourt as well.  They are both just tall enough to not cause any significant matchup problems against most NBA backcourts.  The one team that seems like they could be a realistic partner for this scenario is PHX.  If we land pick #3 or 4, and the Lakers fall to 6 or 7 then PHX gets their pick.  Couple that with PHX getting bumped from the western conference playoffs then they suddenly have a pick in the Russell range, and then maybe another pick that can be paired with the Clippers pick and possibly a 2nd or future 1st to move up and grab Turner.  Could be interesting.  I also need to make sure that I'm not just sold on Turner's stats, and also like him as a player but this is a very intriguing scenario.

[LooseCannon]

Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is)

It's probably due to lack of athleticism that limits his upside.

[HomerSapien]

Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is)

It's probably due to lack of athleticism that limits his upside.

If this is it, then I think I can definitely get excited for him.  He has legit size, and he manages to block a ton of shots and grab rebounds inspite of maybe not being an above the rim guy.  Offensively he has 3 point range, and, more importantly shoots like 85% from the FT line.

I'd be most worried if he is a big time injury red flag, has an attitude problem, or is a timid, soft player down low.  Olynyk and Zeller are enough softies for one roster.

[Nerf DPOY]

Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is)

It's probably due to lack of athleticism that limits his upside.

If this is it, then I think I can definitely get excited for him.  He has legit size, and he manages to block a ton of shots and grab rebounds inspite of maybe not being an above the rim guy.  Offensively he has 3 point range, and, more importantly shoots like 85% from the FT line.

I'd be most worried if he is a big time injury red flag, has an attitude problem, or is a timid, soft player down low.  Olynyk and Zeller are enough softies for one roster.

FYI, Texas plays on ESPN at 6ish after the Kentucky game. Another possibility I thought of is Brooklyn dropping back and the Hawks winding up with a pick in the 8-10 range. Pistons,Pacers,Hornets are all only a few games back of BKN. Maybe Atlanta would prefer to trade back and grab a more lower-ceiling higher-floor ready to contribute now guy, and pick up a future pick or something, over rolling the dice and waiting a few years on a Turner or Oubre type.

[LooseCannon]

Myles Turner (who I can't figure out why his stock is so low given how productive he is)

It's probably due to lack of athleticism that limits his upside.

If this is it, then I think I can definitely get excited for him.  He has legit size, and he manages to block a ton of shots and grab rebounds inspite of maybe not being an above the rim guy.  Offensively he has 3 point range, and, more importantly shoots like 85% from the FT line.

I'd be most worried if he is a big time injury red flag, has an attitude problem, or is a timid, soft player down low.  Olynyk and Zeller are enough softies for one roster.

Well, there are also concerns about foot/ankle issues.

[HomerSapien]

It really all depends on how reliable the draft websites predictions are.  If one of these two projects a couple of picks above or below #10 then we have a shot.  If the talent that you and I are both enamored with puts them both in the top 6 or 7, then this is likely a pipe dream.

[Asher77]

I would like to see us trade into two top 10 picks. I think we need to get our roster full of young guys with so called upside that are tough and play D.

I would be tempted to trade down if we had a top 3 pick ( unless Danny is really sold on Towns or Okafor being franchise changing players ).

At this point my knowledge is limited on the draft but I have liked what i see from S. Johnson and J. Winslow.

With Crowder, Young, Smart and AB adding the above two may be a bit crowded but these guys are fast and big enough to not only play SF but range in various lineups from the PF spot to SG.

If Young is a SG ( he looks it to me ), Smart is a PG, and we look to trade AB or Crowder then adding Johnson and Winslow would make are wing play dynamic for the future at both ends of the court.

I like the positive things AB does but unsure I can ever get over the dumb things like dribbling off his foot or just dropping the ball. ( he is one of the more competitive guys on the team atm but Young may steal his min in the future )

Smart - 32min
Turner - 27min
Young - 26min
Winslow - 23min
Johnson - 23min
Crowder - 23min
Sully - 30min
KO - 28min
Zeller - 28min

This is a 9 player rotation and we would have some amazing effort and size from PG to SF.  I think this would set us up very well for the trade deadline or summer of 2016 when we can make further progress on the direction of our frontcourt and make a decision on Turner's role.

[Asher77]

If we were to keep AB then I feel we would need to move Turner and Crowder while picking up a backup point guard.

Smart - 32min
Backup PG - 16min
AB - 30min
Young - 26min
Winslow - 24min
Johnson - 24min
Sully - 30min
KO - 28min
Zeller - 28min