Latest on Rivers trade

[kozlodoev]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

[Lucky17]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

[Vermont Green]

Yeah, we only had two second round picks in 2017 (assuming we swap with Brooklyn) so we really needed that 3rd second pick.

If I am not mistaken, our roster is now still at 15:

Turner, Smart, Pressey
Bradley, Thornton, Douglas-Roberts
Crowder, Young, Prince
Sullinger, Bass, Wallace
Zeller, Olynyk, Randolph

I see no reason to rush into buying anyone out.  If we need to for a trade, no problem, we can buy someone out anytime.  I also think all of the new players should show up and do their job for the outlandish money they will be making.

Prince might have value to someone in case of an unexpected injury or something.   The only argument is to waive someone so we can try out a D-Leaguer.  I don't see much point in that.  I would rather run with Prince on the off chance that he can generate some actual trade value.

[kozlodoev]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

Don't see how it helps. Aren't contracts set to expire last day of season?

[Lucky17]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

Don't see how it helps. Aren't contracts set to expire last day of season?

Ainge can rent out 2015-16 cap space on Draft Night to improve draft position. Rent out enough, and the bigger TPEs then still are valid for next year.

Or, he could land a major player under contract in 2015-16 from another team simply by offering picks on Draft Night.

[kozlodoev]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

Don't see how it helps. Aren't contracts set to expire last day of season?

Ainge can rent out 2015-16 cap space on Draft Night to improve draft position.

Rent out enough, and the bigger TPEs then still are valid for next year.

I'm confused about how you think this works. TPEs have hard expiration date. So our TPEs will be gone within a year no matter what.

Or, he could land a major player under contract in 2015-16 from another team simply by offering picks on Draft Night.

Yes, the whole point is that we can do this by taking the player with cap space on draft night. And the Rondo exception will likely be too small to take on an impact player regardless.

[Lucky17]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

Don't see how it helps. Aren't contracts set to expire last day of season?

Ainge can rent out 2015-16 cap space on Draft Night to improve draft position.

Rent out enough, and the bigger TPEs then still are valid for next year.

I'm confused about how you think this works. TPEs have hard expiration date. So our TPEs will be gone within a year no matter what.

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

I don't know what the Celtics' cap situation will be like at the end of the year, but if Ainge should start turning assets into players under contract for next season, it's possible that the TPEs won't expire before their hard expiration date. Stein assumes they will evaporate on July 1 if the Celtics are significantly below the cap, since TPEs must be accounted for with cap holds. But it's not a foregone conclusion they will.

[Nerf DPOY]

I was thinking prior to this trade that we needed a warm body to come in and give us 10 minutes at the 4/5 on occasion. Randolph is the perfect scrub to fit that role. The only things I can remember about him besides his prior C's stint is he once made some remarks that were interpreted as homophobic, and he gruesomely broke his leg in a practice once(76'ers?).

[saltlover]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

Just want to point that the link's information is wrong.  Humphries exception was reportedly used in the Anthony-Bynum deal (so we chopped off a few hundred k to extend it by 2.5 months), and the Anthony TPE was used to take on Nelson in the Rondo trade.  We really have a little over $1 mil in the Anthony exception and about $1.3 mil in the Humphries exception (for those keeping score at home).

[Timdawgg]

The Rivers TPE marks the 6th at Ainge's disposal.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3480/boston-celtics-trade-exception-al

Granted, two of these are so small as to be practically unusable. But the others all could bear some fruit down the line.

We'll probably be able to take players into cap space after the end of this season, so unless we add some major contracts really quick this season, those exceptions are all but useless.

Draft Night.

Don't see how it helps. Aren't contracts set to expire last day of season?

Ainge can rent out 2015-16 cap space on Draft Night to improve draft position.

Rent out enough, and the bigger TPEs then still are valid for next year.

I'm confused about how you think this works. TPEs have hard expiration date. So our TPEs will be gone within a year no matter what.

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

Man Draft night is going to be so exciting for the next couple years...Can't wait...

[kozlodoev]

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

You don't need a TPE to do this. Since we're going to have a ton of cap space on draft day, we can just take Al Horford into cap space and not send out any salary regardless.

[Lucky17]

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

You don't need a TPE to do this. Since we're going to have a ton of cap space on draft day, we can just take Al Horford into cap space and not send out any salary regardless.

Not with the cap holds those current TPEs represent. The Rondo one adds $13 mil to the current cap situation.

[kozlodoev]

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

You don't need a TPE to do this. Since we're going to have a ton of cap space on draft day, we can just take Al Horford into cap space and not send out any salary regardless.

Not with the cap holds those current TPEs represent. The Rondo one adds $13 mil to the current cap situation.

You can renounce all your cap holds. The key here is that the TPE offers zero additional value over  regular cap space in the situation you're describing.

[Lucky17]

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

You don't need a TPE to do this. Since we're going to have a ton of cap space on draft day, we can just take Al Horford into cap space and not send out any salary regardless.

Not with the cap holds those current TPEs represent. The Rondo one adds $13 mil to the current cap situation.

You can renounce all your cap holds. The key here is that the TPE offers zero additional value over  regular cap space in the situation you're describing.

According to Hoopshype, Celtics currently have less than $3 mil in cap space.

So, on Draft Night 2015, they would have to use the TPE if they wished to pursue the scenario I describe. There is no cap space until the calendar rolls over to July.

[Nerf DPOY]

You can use the TPE on Draft Night (June 2015) to acquire a player who is under contract for 2015-16.

For example: Ainge could offer two draft picks on Draft Night to Atlanta for Al Horford, and not have to send out salary, because Horford fits within the Rondo TPE.

You don't need a TPE to do this. Since we're going to have a ton of cap space on draft day, we can just take Al Horford into cap space and not send out any salary regardless.

Not with the cap holds those current TPEs represent. The Rondo one adds $13 mil to the current cap situation.

You can renounce all your cap holds. The key here is that the TPE offers zero additional value over  regular cap space in the situation you're describing.

I'm admittedly ignorant of all this cap space/TPE stuff, but it sounds like it all boils down to six of one or one half dozen of the other. We can basically absorb a large chunk of salary if we see fit, right?