The Jae Crowder Fan Club

[Evantime34]

Honestly, who he remind me of at this point is his teammate at Marquette. I think he's pretty similar in terms of effort and development to where Jimmy Butler was a year ago. Now I'm not saying Crowder will have the same explosion onto the scene as Jimmy Butler did in his fourth year (although if you compare Jimmy Butler and Jae's 3rd season per 36 numbers they are pretty similar), I'm just saying their styles are similar.

Walking it back a little before people go crazy, it's inportant to remember that Jimmy Butler played hurt a lot of last year, and has always been a bit Bette at shot creation for both himself and others than Crowder, which definitely helps his value.  They do play with similar energy, and I do think Crowder is a keeper. But I don't see him developing into a franchise cornerstone as Butler is becoming.

We agree on this. That being said, no one predicted the season Jimmy Butler would have this year.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I just like him and the way he plays, I don't need him to be anyone else and I have no expectations.  Just keep playing like he has and I will enjoy it,  high scoring or not.

[Rosco917]

I think Crowder's challenge will be maintaining his offensive output in the long term. In my eyes he's naturally gifted in terms of motor. If you look back into his playing back round he's always been full of energy and hustle. What's surprised me is he's a good passer too. Former Big East player of the year etc.

His father played a few years in the NBA too.

He looks like he has a chance to stick.   
 
   

[kozlodoev]

Crowder is ok. He can start, but to me his upside seems to be a taller Tony Allen (which is not too bad, really) -- and we'll need a stud SG to play next to him.

[MetroGlobe]

I think the Tony Allen comparisons are pretty close.  Although by year 5, Tony was able to score off the dribble and get to the free throw line quite a bit.  Not sure if Crowder will develop that skill to create his own shot/get fouled.

But he looked great slashing on pick & rolls last night.  So hopefully Stevens can design even more plays for him to score that way.

[Chris22]

James Posey 2.0.

[kozlodoev]

I think the Tony Allen comparisons are pretty close.  Although by year 5, Tony was able to score off the dribble and get to the free throw line quite a bit.  Not sure if Crowder will develop that skill to create his own shot/get fouled.

But he looked great slashing on pick & rolls last night.  So hopefully Stevens can design even more plays for him to score that way.

Tony Allen had one off the dribble move that was reliable: a one-dribble, straight-line drive to the basket. Attempting to do more usually resulted in an unmitigated disaster. Not sure whether Crowder will ever have reliable ability off the dribble, but he looks like he could be an ok shooter and a scrapper on offense -- and that's good enough for me.

[Tr1boy]

Crowder is ok. He can start, but to me his upside seems to be a taller Tony Allen (which is not too bad, really) -- and we'll need a stud SG to play next to him.

Could tony allen shoot? Can he still shoot today?

Crowder has been nailing the open jumpers these days. Shoots around 70 percent at the line. Crowder is TA plus

Thats why i compare him more to a james posey

[Fafnir]

Crowder cuts into our flexibility. Don't get too attached to him until after the deadline.

We aren't chasing flexibility. We are chasing assets that will have long term value to us. Unfortunately, Crowder was a second round pick, so I assume that he will be an unrestricted free agent.

He'll have been in the league only 3 years, thus he'll be a restricted free agent if the C's put in the qualifying offer for him. That QO will be 2.72 million if he meets the starter criteria or 1.14 if he doesn't. (figures were calculated by me, could be off but shouldn't be by much)

Starter criteria is 2000 minutes or 41 games started. I don't see him getting a 20 million dollar offer sheet from another team personally but who knows.

[Fafnir]

I think the Tony Allen comparisons are pretty close.  Although by year 5, Tony was able to score off the dribble and get to the free throw line quite a bit.  Not sure if Crowder will develop that skill to create his own shot/get fouled.

But he looked great slashing on pick & rolls last night.  So hopefully Stevens can design even more plays for him to score that way.

Tony Allen had one off the dribble move that was reliable: a one-dribble, straight-line drive to the basket. Attempting to do more usually resulted in an unmitigated disaster. Not sure whether Crowder will ever have reliable ability off the dribble, but he looks like he could be an ok shooter and a scrapper on offense -- and that's good enough for me.

Reliable if he didn't dribble if off his foot on that one dribble.....

[Fafnir]

Funny fact I just saw on his bbref page.

Crowder was traded by the Cavs along with Jared Cunningham for Tyler Zeller and Kelenna Azubuike to the Mavericks.

[KCattheStripe]

A better defending version of Demarre Carrol ( which is saying something)

[Fafnir]

A better defending version of Demarre Carrol ( which is saying something)

Carroll is more of a 3/4, Crowder is a 2/3 in my mind.

[kozlodoev]

I think the Tony Allen comparisons are pretty close.  Although by year 5, Tony was able to score off the dribble and get to the free throw line quite a bit.  Not sure if Crowder will develop that skill to create his own shot/get fouled.

But he looked great slashing on pick & rolls last night.  So hopefully Stevens can design even more plays for him to score that way.

Tony Allen had one off the dribble move that was reliable: a one-dribble, straight-line drive to the basket. Attempting to do more usually resulted in an unmitigated disaster. Not sure whether Crowder will ever have reliable ability off the dribble, but he looks like he could be an ok shooter and a scrapper on offense -- and that's good enough for me.

Reliable if he didn't dribble if off his foot on that one dribble.....

It's harder to dribble it off your foot when it's a one-step move. Even for good old Tony.

[Fafnir]

It's harder to dribble it off your foot when it's a one-step move. Even for good old Tony.

Tony rewarded my faith many times on his initial dribble.